Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “rebonkulous”:
ok i'm reading this as posts are going up and anyone who is saying that i'd lie about how much time i have is full of **** or a wolf
i was at a computer earlier in the day but i forgot about it up until 30 minutes left
good night
to finish up from yesterday:
ibavly - the fact that ibavly's not being lazy means good things
luckay - he basically did what i did as far as reads. For mine you'd just have to normalize it and put into percentages. i more just gave arbitrary numbers as to about how villagery i thought each person's posts were
milk - i somehow managed to miss milk's post last night. claiming not seer is pretty bad. voting ibavly while still using his ranking system is even worse.
VM: 2.9
sang - i swear i did his but i must've accidentally deleted it. what i liked most about his post was the fact that he's not calling the short posters wolves necessarily but encouraging them to post more. i highly doubt a noob wolf would make posts like that, a noob wolf would try to just push and vote the low posters
VM: 8.4
silman - i feel like i read silman pretty well. i think the fact that he's coming out this early with this kind of effort means he's > rand to be villager. his first post was better than his 2nd but i think i'll have a solid read on him by the end of the week, also i'm not sure how he thinks animal is a wolf but ok
xxsooted - xxsooted's logic is good but i disagree with his wolf reads so i'm not really sure what to think, and his point about silman asking so many people for other games is interesting because i highly doubt silman is actually going to put in the work to go back and read them
P3D1
no VM meter today
aao why are you still talking about game mechanics at this point and talking about pressuring wolves when you haven't pressured a single person
if reading about 30 posts for akson is too much than that's pathetic
1000 words does seem a bit insufficient but thats what makes this game fun (plus i'm not going to read a 10k word monologue from anyone). i'm going to have to reread animal now because what alice found is pretty sick.
alice how are you able to explain aksons post for him? how do you know that that was his meaning in the post because what you said sounds a bit absurd.
if jason were a villager he wouldn't cry about reading 30 posts and he'd probably be more excited about being able to play a slow game like this.
animal - the reason i say wolves are more likely to make mechanics posts is because in past mishmashes, it's very true. it gives them something to talk freely about and it really doesn't add much to the game.
bobman - i'm shocked that people find alice wolfy still. and i didn't think you were wolfy in your 2nd post. also +111111111 what you said on filthy
filthy
gder how can you say akson not posting at all is insignificant when you know he was online for a good part of the day
globe - because i forgot?
your case on me is based on me having a short post d1 which is completely role neutral and doesn't make any sense, and the fact that you think i'm lying about not starting my post until 30 minutes till EOD which is complete bull****. I've also doen the ratings system or something similar once before in a reread of duckburg in a vanilla game once. I've always wanted to do it and this game is really the only game you can go post by post in.
ibavly basically just said about milk what i just said. milk/akson wagons ftw
luckay - i have no clue what to think of anarchist really because if he's a wolf he's basically already given up just like jason
the fact that he isn't voting jason is interesting and means they're probably w/w, especially with akson throwing a 'random' vote on anarchist. we'll see if he votes him in this next post
A1: see above
A2: ran out of time, addressed
A3: addressed obv
lol milk
i still love sang's reprimanding the LC posts, and his questioning and attempts to interact with everyone is villagery
silman -how did your opinion not change greatly on me considering there was a 10000% increase in the amount of words from p1 to p2
Quote:
GENERAL POINT: It is not a good idea to assume that everyone not putting a ton of effort so far are wolves. There are times where you can clear someone for a TON of effort, but lack of effort is not really a wolf tell. Wolves put in effort because they are trying to win.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “sangaman”:
I am still going to respond to each person and post in order. Most of my reads, thoughts, and defenses will be in these responses.
aao- Word about the alphabetical order thing, I kinda wish the posts were in random order. Of course votes are going to be flat after the first post. I think wagons well be more well formed later. Otherwise, I think your post reads villagery and your defense of yourself is good.
aaronk56- Don't blame the rest of us for lynching you if you forget about the game and refuse to post anything useful. There is no "clutter" in a game where we we are only allowed five posts per day.
alice16- Your case against animalem18 looks very villagery for you, you identified some interesting tone similarities with her wolf game. I don't think a wolf would go through the trouble like you did with animalem. My take on her is still that she looks like a newish player trying to figure out the game. I also think you have a good point on aaron. I didn't think Aaron's 1st post was related to game flavor. I still think he is a legitimate lynch today because there's no indication he will ever be a useful villager in this game and making a relatively reliable wolf read in the next two days will be hard. I will switch off him if I have a good reason to believe someone else is a wolf.
animalem18- Luckay posts those charts regardless of role, but I think it's particularly useful in this format. Again, I don't find anything disagreeable in your reads. I like that you are keeping your reads open and flexible, as the amount of information available now is tiny compared to what there'll be later in the game.
Anarchist- This is slightly better. You are right about wolves possibly hinting to each other, but post more of your reads and thoughts.
Essedarius- Really not what I was expecting from you. We need your reads on people and fast.
Bobman0330- OK, who else are you willing to vote besides anarchist?
Filthyvermin- Another respectable post. You sound honest. I'd say you are a villager.
Gder402- I'm sorry to see I'm rank 4 now. I don't know how else I can defend myself to you. You are providing almost no reasoning for your vote on me, and you don't seem to be thinking critically about this game. It is bizarre that you would be so confident about voting me.
Globetrotter- Good point that wolves are less likely to make slips in this format, villagers might be less careful.
Ibavly- Why do you think gder oozes villageriness? I think your case on Milkreggae is very legitimate.
LuckayLuck- Can't argue with your case on anarchist. You are asking people inquisitive and potentially useful questions, which is the villager Luckay I'm used to.
MilkReggae- Face meet palm.
Rebonkulous- Spoilers waste time. Interesting to know akson is often utr as a wolf. Otherwise your post reads as honest but also a bit fluffy.
Silman- Another good case against MilkReggae, I'm glad you could draw comparisons to other wolf games of his. As I said, I have faith in Silman's reads. +villager points for making a convincing argument.
Xxsooted- I think you're putting thought into this game, but I would warn you not to get too confident in your reads on aao and Silman this early. You admittedly make assumptions that they're both wolves, and I think human nature is to fit new information to agree with your previous beliefs. I think you should analyze their behavior more objectively.
General Thoughts:
-I had an idea while thinking about the people who are failing to submit posts so far. I think wolves might feel an obligation towards their wolf partners to at least post SOMETHING every day. Specifically in regards to akson, it looks a little like he wanted to be a wolf d1p1, found out he wasn't a wolf, then just mailed it in d1p2 and kind of on d1p3 too. This is just speculation, though.
Akson, if you don't want to get lynched today then do something to show you will think critically about this game and are worth keeping around.
-Does globetrotter ever act like this as a wolf? I've found nothing to think he's a wolf and I think he's been villagery and posted a lot of content and helpful thoughts, but I'm looking for more info about him.
Rank 3:
MilkReggae- Blown seer cover and no useful content so far. His behavior is strange, not exactly what I'd expect from a villager. See ibavly's d1p3 for more.
Aaronk56- I took my vote off you for now. If your post today is good, I will probably leave it off of you. If it's bad, I will vote you with little hesitation.
gder402- There are no votes on him as of Wednesday. Here is one. I think his behavior and thoughts are strange. Voting me is fine, but being so confident that I'm a wolf for no apparent reason is suspicious. He's probably my best guess of anyone to be a wolf so far.
I am almost certainly going to vote one of these three people today. I wish I didn't have to narrow my choices like this but that's way the game goes. I'm leaning gder now but they are all close in my mind. I will vote one of these people based on the quality/villageriness of their posts today.
In the very unlikely event that, after reading today's posts, none of these three have a chance of getting lynched today, I will vote anarchist or bottom 3 villager leans. I don't think that will be an issue, though.
I hope everyone by today posted the people they'd consider voting for tomorrow. Vote the wolfiest person you think has a chance of getting lynched.
Sorry guys, I'm really short on time today, so I'll just give a few brief thoughts for now:
Milkreggae is 100x better a vote than akson or anarchist. Don't get me wrong, both are doing approx nothing but milk is actively wolfy. I'll always push wolfy over UTR. Always. And you should too. Also I really dislike the cases on akson, he pretty clearly wrote his first post before he saw his role so calling it wolfy is pretty lol imo. Also I think anarchist is actually looking quite a bit like village anarchist aorn.
I really dislike sooted's latest post. Especially note the part where he's like "I'm so sure aao and silman are both wolves that I'll analyse silman for spew. Silman said the same thing about aao and bobman so clearly aao is wolf and bobman is villager." and then votes aao. Please explain this, it makes absolutely no sense.
gder tunneling is looking very wolfy
A number of people are calling alice wolfy and I really can't fathom why
globe is still a villager, sanga probably is too.
Something that I saw that made me o.O came from aao:
"wolves will be harder to pressure if the general gist of the thread is that they are a villager"
When is this ever not the case? In a normal game surely if like everyone says "aao villagery" then one person goes "zomg aao is wolf" you're probably not getting lynched unless that person is shortline.
also aao is villagery if I forgot to say that, but I would still like this explained in more detail.
My milkreggae vote is now rank 5, I will not change it today. Despite what luckay said, I think post5 voting him is a solid idea.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “xxsooted”:
Arghhhh lost everything I wrote half-way through!!!!!! It’s okay though b/c I feel like I am on to something (Sherlock XX) and the new version of this post shall get right to it!
Tinfoil hat theory: aao/bobman/filthy are w/w/w (will get to reasoning for bob/filthy later but this was the part I was working on when the doc crashed and I am too excited to do anything else!!!!!!!)
Fact #1: Wolves vote their teammates way >rand with their first vote. There is an old thread on this. Something about subconsciously knowing that you’re right so you feel that your vote can’t really be criticized.
Aao P1:
Quote:
Having said that, filthyvermin gets the pleasure of my first vote.
Filthyvermin
Filthy P1:
Quote:
first
bobman
Fact #2: Wolves often show that they recognize a teammate's wolfiness, but somehow see past it (reason being that they don't want to lynch their own guy ldo).
Bobman P3:
Quote:
Aao
My first thought was “where’s the beef?” but on second thought, everything seems pretty logical, and I feel like a wolf would want to post more, so I give this a few villa points.
Filthyvermin P3:
Quote:
we disagreed on short posts being wolfy or villagery but other than that our thoughts are disturbingly similar. i want to call aao a wolf, but i am leaning villager for now because of our similar thoughts on ak's son and xxsooted
Other musings from the TinFoilHatTheoryGuy (TFHTG):
Aao P2: It is interesting to note that aao leaves his vote on filthy, someone that he had voted the day before with 0 information. This is a noob wolf tell, although obv aao is not a noob. Let’s get back to the subconscious theory talked about above - it is possible that aao knew that filthy was a wolf, and didn’t feel the need to change his vote because the vote seems like it should be fine, since he’s voting a wolf after all.
In fact, IF aao is a wolf he arguably would never leave his vote on villa filthy like that, so it seems that aao wolf ----> filthy wolf.
Bobman P2:
Quote:
anarchist - luckay is voting him. he is slightly wolfier than FV, who gets some villager cred for voting and for not trying to pre-justify short posts
Feels the need to mention his wolf buddy as being wolfy (just like aao).
fwiw the post he is talking about of filthy's is the two word post I quoted above.
Filthy P2
Quote:
aao: i thought about voting for you yesterday
TFHTG says: Of course you did!
Aao P3:
Quote:
I’m happy to go for anyone of:
XXsooted
Filthy
AKson
I intend on sticking with filthy after seeing his second post and lack of anything to say - looks like he wants to coast. Simple as that. My vote on him on D1P1 was random, but now I have a reason for it. I’m going to re-evaluate my vote on P4 and P5 but really not budging off of anyone of those 3.
AKA
tough mislynch
wolf
easy mislynch
His d1p1 was random, he now thinks that filthy looks like he wants to coast. Let's not mention that d1p2 was basically for nothing.
***********************************************LES S INTERESTING PART OF POST ***********************************************
aks is a bad vote. The people that I think are wolves seem okay with lynching him.
anarchist is a bad vote due to bobman's P2.
I'm guessing I was wrong about silman.
I'll try to figure out the last wolf from soul-reading the 3 wolves' posts. May or may not get to this before 10.
ibavly cleared himself with his P3.
globe's P3 made me reconsider filthy so gotta give credit for his case there.
ok my original drafting of this started off with BREAKING NEWS BOBMAN IS A WOLF so here's a short case for bob.
A SHORT CASE FOR BOB
Spoiler:
I am spoiling this b/c I think if ppl read bob's post and got their own read on him, it might be more effective than me just trying to convince you guys to think in the way my mind works.
Spoiler:
Read his P3 and ask yourself if his thoughts reflect your thoughts for ANYBODY. Even if what he's saying is correct, it just isn't the first thing that you would think if commenting on someone. For example, for globe he says "I the stuff about formatting, but I think it's neutral." THAT'S IT!?! Contrast this with how villagers couldn't help themselves from oozing man-love or womanly platonic love onto globe for his post.
In addition, bobman does not seem like he is wolf-hunting.
Ibavly the villager said:
Quote:
People being very passive about their wolf leans at this point will be suspicious to me.
I agree. Just look at bobman's post. He is voting someone that he said 3 words about. It seems that he has no strong wolf leans.
Cliffs:
1) different reaction than villagers
2) not wolf-hunting
For filthy, look at globe's case on him from P2.
That said, it is too late in the week to vote bobman. I think aao is the best lynch. For our final vote on Friday, in the interest of wagon coordination, I'm going to take a leap of faith and announce I WILL NOT CHANGE OFF OF AAO. Please don't take this as me trying to force my views onto you guys, I just don't see a better way here with the "short" week.
I would guess milkreggae as the last wolf mostly by POE. Ibavly's point about milk voting ibavly while using ibavly's vote ranking system is interesting as well.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
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Anchorwoman: Good evening, New Pog. I am Anita Lynche and this is CR Peak News. Tonight: The race for Mayor heats up, pirates caught trafficking stolen goods in Durron Harbor, and twenty questions you should ask yourself before banning yourself from New Pog.
But first we are going to continue our nightly series of The Lost Reports with the memos Detective Homer received July 28th, 2011:
No motivation to write anything substantial if I'm potentially being lynched here.
I'm stubborn and not moving off of filthyvermin though so I've just crossed everything and hope that people have had a sudden change of heart and vote him/someone else over me. If I live to see D2 then I'll reply to some things on D1P3-4 or so.
Don't be surprised when I show up as a villager though - however, if I do get lynched then experience has taught me that if a wolf knows a villager [me] is going to get lynched or has a wagon starting to roll, they will often have the correct read in order to look good once the villager is lynched. Bear this in mind; look at people like LuckayLuck/ibavly/silman (to name off the top of my head) who have called me a villager really lightly early on once alice/globe started their cases.
Written by Detective Code Name “alice16”: GAME PHILOSOPHY:
Wanted to expound more on my comment Wednesday:
This game basically has three styles of posting -
broad focus post-by-post commentary (brief comments for each player every day)
narrow focus case making (lengthy comments directed a narrowed group of players)
“quick thoughts” posting (a short list of reads or comments that’s neither comprehensive nor lengthy)
I know everyone has their own posting style, but I think it’s a healthy suggestion that people strive to incorporate multiple styles throughout the week.
We can see your thought process better when you make specific cases as opposed to just broad focus commentary every day.
Likewise, we can see your alignment better when you comment on everyone, as opposed to just narrowing in on two cases every day. (i.e. no one has any idea right now what my feelings are about xxsooted for instance, bc I’ve never even mentioned him.) (He’s a villager btw)
So i'll try to do better at this.
MORE FUN WITH CHARTS!
Votes and Wolf Leans, by Day:
Player
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
aao-vote
Filthyvermin
Filthyvermin
Filthyvermin
Filthyvermin
aao-w leans
x
akson rebonk milk sooted gder
akson sooted
akson
Aaronk56's Son-vote
x
x
Anarchist
Anarchist
Aaronk56's Son-w leans
x
x
x
x
Alice16-vote
x
aao
aao
bobman0330
aao
Alice16-w leans
x
aao luckay
aao animal bob
aao bob
aao bob
Animalem18-vote
x
x
Aaronk56's Son
Anarchist
Animalem18-w leans
x
akson alice milk rebonk sooted
aao filthy milk gder anarchist
akson milk gder
Anarchist-vote
x
LuckayLuck
Aaronk56's Son
Aaronk56's Son (old)
Anarchist-w leans
x
x
essedarius-vote
x
x
x
aao
essedarius-w leans
x
aao*
aao anarchist gder*
bobman0330-vote
x
Anarchist
Anarchist
Filthyvermin
bobman0330-w leans
x
ak alice anar fv gder milk rebonk xx
alice silman
anarchist
Filthyvermin-vote
bobman
Aaronk56's Son
Aaronk56's Son
aao
Filthyvermin-w leans
x
sooted
x
akson anarchist
Gder402-vote
x
Sangaman
Sangaman
Sangaman
Gder402-w leans
x
silman
silman alice?
alice? bob?
Globetrotter-vote
x
aao
Filthyvermin
aao
Globetrotter-w leans
x
anarchist filthy milk rebonk
aao rebonk
filthy rebonk
Ibavly-vote
x
MilkReggae
MilkReggae
MilkReggae
Ibavly-w leans
x
globe rebonk
filthy akson
rebonk
LuckayLuck-vote
anarchist
Gder402
Anarchist
Anarchist
LuckayLuck-w leans
x
akson sooted filthy anarchist
filthy
filthy
MilkReggae-vote
x
Ibavly
Ibavly (old)
Ibavly (old)
MilkReggae-w leans
x
x
x
x
Rebonkulous-vote
x
Aaronk56's Son
Aaronk56's Son
Aaronk56's Son (old)
Rebonkulous-w leans
x
bobman
anarchist globe
none
Sangaman-vote
x
Aaronk56's Son
Aaronk56's Son
Gder402
Sangaman-w leans
x
anarchist rebonk filthy sooted
aao gder milk anarchist
anarchist milk akson
Silman-vote
x
Animalem18
MilkReggae
MilkReggae
Silman-w leans
x
rebonk milk filthy anar akson
x
sooted ?
Xxsooted-vote
x
Silman
aao
aao
Xxsooted-w leans
x
aao
silman/anarchist/animal
bobman/filthy
I tried pulling the “wolf leans” as best as I could. If you feel misrepresented: sorry.
(old) means it's a vote from previous day
CHART NOTES:
I think it's good to see the evolution of a person's wolf reads over the week; with only one post a day and so little time to form wagons, this should give a top level look at where players directed their (wolfhunting) focus
Really interested to see where Animal votes.
And bob/filthy/sanga.
(and if you milk voters hold your ground. Ps: I don’t think that’s good if you do)
COMMENTS:
REBONK: I understand the idea of not wanting to “give too much away” however, I don’t really think your Thursday strategy is a good one. You didn’t vote. And you didn’t post anything that gave any indication of what your reads were/are. I'm nervous a bit that you think your (yet unexplained) daily “village meter” will exempt you from giving closing arguments (Thursday).
FOR EMPHASIS: everyone should give some type of closing argument on Thursday.
SOOTED: when we played in the anon game, we shared an eerie amount of reads. So much so, that I was paranoid you were trying to just get in my head and manipulate me. but you weren’t. zomg. (we also weren’t exactly right about everything in that game either, but w/e)
I look forward to seeing if you can predict my next wolf lean again…. :P
(and love this format btw: there’s zero collusion, so when ppl match reads, it’s so much less suspicious)
QUESTIONS...
ANIMAL: on Wednesday, you arranged your wolf leans from “least to most” as:
Anarchist
Gder
Milk
Filthy
Aao
Aaronkson (VOTED)
On Thursday, you said you were only going to post about your wolf leans. And you talked about:
Akson
Milk
Gder
Anarchist (VOTED)
Can you let us know how aao went from your second biggest wolf lean on Wednesday, to not even getting an honorable mention on Thursday?
And filthy disappeared too.
ALL: has anyone played with milk? not posting for two consec days: it's inviting a modkill (or sub?) is he new enough that his early week would make him just quit?
....AND ANSWERS
Quote:
Originally Posted by rebonk, D1P4
alice how are you able to explain aksons post for him? how do you know that that was his meaning in the post because what you said sounds a bit absurd.
It’s not absurd at all. I could see maybe “odd” – if you didn’t play Gangs of New Pog – but it’s not absurd by any stretch, especially when everything you need to reach this conclusion is in the OP:
Gangs of New Pog ROLES: esse the triple agent seer, duckburg the werewolf hitman, bigger the former gang leader, jack the consigliere, ibav the tyrant...etc.
FINAL NOTE:
I will be travelling on Monday and there is a good chance I will not be able to get internet access at all that day. Enjoy 999 fewer words to read.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “animalem18”:
I procrastinated after a long day on making this post, so I'm unable to be as thorough unfortunately. Yesterday I listed the following as my highest votes for lynching today: Aaronk56's Son, Anarchist, Milkreggae, and Gder. I am going to keep my vote on Anarchist for the following reasons:
-I still think that voting Aaronk56's Son is too obvious for now and I don't want to give wolves someone to piggy-back onto
-Gder is obviously not going to be lynched today, so a vote for him would be a wasted vote.
-Milkreggae: Silman made the point that he thinks that milkreggae is the only one who is actively wolfy. There isn't much active about milkreggae and his posts that I can see and I think Anarchist has been more wolfy than milkreggae for the reasons I mentioned yesterday. However, I see myself possibly voting milkreggae in the near future unless things drastically change.
-The people who Anarchist reads as his “wolf team” are myself, and three people who I believe have been incredibly villagery (bobman, luckay and globetrotter) without reason and we just have to trust that his reads are good.
Current leader in the wagon department:
aao:
-People's reasons for voting him:
-Him randomly voting for filthy the first day and keeping his vote on him afterwards (this really leans on filthy being a wolf in xxsooted's post)
-He is just commenting and not analyzing
-Discrediting and downplaying mess ups and cases against him, shifting focus and an unnatural thought process
Whereas these are valid reasons for voting for him, I still am not completely convinced and have decided to hold off my vote for him for another game day.
People on my watch list:
Filthy: a lot of people have made some good points on him. I wish he had gone into more detail about why he could be persuaded to vote for Ak'ssson and anarchist yesterday.
Rebonkulous: Starting to see that his posts don't really have very strong reads and his ranking system seems quite random. He mentions that he loves the idea that not everyone putting a ton of effort in so far are wolves and that wolves put in effort because they are trying to win, but then goes on to say that silman “coming out with effort this early” means he's likely a villager. I also wish he had gone into more as to why he liked filthy's post-but I understand he had a word limit.
One last thought:
Xxsooted: Very interesting theory and you have plenty of evidence for your ideas, if indeed the facts you listed are true, which I'm still not sure of- maybe I don't have enough experience to know everyhing that wolves typically do. Something I'm not really sure about-why would aao leave his vote on filthy if they were both wolves? I see the point that he can easily defend a vote on filthy since he's a wolf, but why would he want to run the risk of getting him lynched?
So going into the last day, I'm the second wagon, which obv. sucks.
I still think I'm right about my reads, and I know I'm an easy target here. I'm not really sure if aao is a wolf or not, but obviously he's the best wagon that I can see, so I will have to vote him.
In general, I think people should be consolidating to the wagons waaaaaaaaay earlier, to stop some wolf CFD bs. Don't let them hide or control the lynches. Seriously, it's terrible.
With that said, I obv. have to vote aao.
I'm hoping to see him flip wolf, ldo, but wouldn't be shocked if he didn't.
If I die here, keep in mind who I said was wolfy in my previous posts.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “essedarius(axel_nld)”:
aao-3
I found the general/order to be waste of words, other than that he's only focusing on xxsooted and alice16, and then adding few lines about filthy, who he has been calling a wolf for a while and also says he's happy to vote akson
now what I find interesting is how he dropped names from his happy to vote list without even saying a word about them, they are rebonk, milk and gder
on a surface I can see why he dropped rebonk, gder made a little effort too, but dropping milk for his 2nd post makes little sense if he was fine voting him from his 1st post
so basicly the lack of explaining those and his narrow concentration of on just few people is wolfy, he does this to avoid spew after getting heat I think
akson-3
pretty useless
alice-3
first thing I notice is that she's confused about globe referring animalem as her, then I immediately remembered how I first typed her as him too, but after reading sangaman's first post I went back and fixed that.. So my point being, if alice is reading every post, why hasn't she noticed this before now.. well anyways I found her comparison being possibly genuine, I wouldn't call either of them wolves at this point though.. I like how she tried to interact with people by asking them stuff so it won't go to the point where everyone's just commenting on everyone's posts and no real interactions exist.
animalem-3
continues to be villagery, I like how she went back to reread aao based on alice and globe calling him wolfy
anarchist-3
meh another pretty neutral to wolfy post, anarchist could you please start sharing more of your opinions?
bobman-3
some of his reads seem to have changed, but he doesn't bring that up, just giving a read of each new post, but not for everyone, and I don't agree with a lot of this, moving him down in my villa list a little bit
filthy-3
leans a villa on aao because he has similar thoughts about akson than him who has not made one fluff post and same for xxsooted, and says also that their thoughts are disturbingly similar, so why does he even say that he wants to call aao a wolf? if they think alone same lines why wouldn't he think that they're just v/v, I mean I don't understand this line: "i want to call aao a wolf" I can't understand it ever coming from a villager. I think there's definitely a good shot of them both being wolves.
also if he's a wolf I think he spews luckay and milk as villager on this post
gder-3
lol, he has to be a wolf, I don't believe he's reading the thread
globe-3
would you explain yout gder village read please? other than that we still seem to be on same wavelenght, so that's good
ibavly-3
villagery post, I can see his reasonings, but I don't agree with lot of it, I don't like his milk vote
luckay-3
what I expected, I agree with a lot, disagree with some, still a villager
milk-3
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rebonk-3
how the **** do you have globe that likely to be a wolf? other than that, this is a huge improvement from his earlier posts, and I'm putting him back to neutral category
sanga-3
solid reads, he's still a villager
silman-3
oh this is an approach I like, he specifically states the people who his reads have changed on, and he's right, he might be unlynchable
xxsooted-3
good post except for the gder part
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aao-4
trying to spew filthy as a villager imo
akson-4
useless
alice-4
very thoughtful post, I like how she states her plan on voting so people can somewhat organize their final votes, and also I like her aao case
animalem-4
another good post
bobman-4
another good post, i'm getting lazy as you can see
filthy-4
now I'm going to make a prediction here: what happens with his 5th post is he's going to change it to someone else, he's going to find a reason for it, as for his wording, it's going to be something like: "x made a good point about y" then he's gonna give few thoughts of his own and vote y
gder-4
wolves are getting lazy
globe-4
as am I though, because I'm just going to say this is another solid post from globe
ibav-4
about why luckay is clearing milk, I think he gave him points from his first post, seer cover or whatever, then he had a null opinion about his 2nd post and he just gained points because anarchist lost them
luckay-4
idk, still feels villagery, just wants to lynch a different than I do
milk-4
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rebonk-4
villagery post, not enough yet to put him in my villagers though
I got a little lazy making my narrative type of post and it seemed repetitive so I didn't bother to explain why I still think some people are villagers, nothing just changed, so I'll change my approach tomorrow and do something else than trying to give an opinion of each post..
So anyways, I hope everyone's lynching aao, it seems like it's happening already, so that's good, if not then tomorrow for the reasons I've stated and for reasons globe and alice have stated.
looks like I got some words left, here's lyrics for Tiny Salmon:
"Tiny salmon swimming in a stream,
Tiny salmon chasing that impossible dream.
The Myna Bird says ahhh ah ahhh,
The chimpanzee says ayeeee,
The friendly owl says whoooo who whoooo,
But the salmon can only say blooo blooo blo blooo blooo blo blooo,
And it's sad"
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “bobman0330”:
An important lesson of this game is that P3 is a particularly bad time to write a lazy post, because people will react to it on P4, and you won’t be able to respond to any of that before you get lynched or not lynched. Oops.
Headlines:
Alice Thinks I’m a Wolf; So Does XX
Case against me is pretty disappointing. It’s a lot of “inconsistencies” that aren’t even really inconsistent. Like giving ibav villager points for putting out more detailed reads of P1 posts than I did. So? Ibav made a better P2 post than I did.
I like XX’s case a little more. My P3 post was pretty lazy, so it’s logical of him to zero in on the lack of wolf-hunting, etc. On the other hand, it’s wrong to interpret me having different reactions as wolfy, especially in the context of a lazy post. Obviously a wolf would know that sucking up to globe is easy and correct. Personally, I found his post useful, but I think he could easily do it as a wolf, and there was nothing in it that sparked a need to comment. So I didn’t, which is actually super-villagery if you think about it.
AAO is Apparently a Wolf
It’s ridiculous that he’s got laser-beam focus on filthy and is just ignoring everyone else who is putting in as little work as him or less. Alice makes some good points, especially his weird reaction to her accusations.
Alice Comically Still Has Zero Village Reads
Her strongest statement that someone is a villager… AKson.
A New Player Takes the Field, Writes Up a Bunch of Boring Reactions No One Will Read
Meh on esse’s approach to writing a recap of every post ITT, especially when a lot of his recaps are just blah restatements. His read list is interesting. AKson is anomalously high.
Anarchist is a Wolf, or Possibly a Space Alien Who Doesn’t Think Like Humans
Doesn’t need much comment, but I like how he supposedly read the posts “MANY” times, but couldn’t be bothered to say anything except a guess about the entire wolf team.
Gder is Also a Wolf
He overjustifies his short post (“I don’t have any time” PLUS “I don’t have any new reads anyways.”) Plus his new read is that akson is likely a villager! Also he really did give sangaman a rank 3, so don’t know why he says I made that up.
Rebonk’s Posts Are Totally Unreadable
Maybe this is just me, but I honestly have no idea WTF he’s saying when I read his posts. Even though he assigns numerical wolfiness rankings to everyone. It’s like reading Joyce or something.
Animalem Really Is a Villager
Those rambling train-of-thought, wall-of-text posts just have to be from a villager. Can you imagine trying to write all that as a wolf? Stuff like this is way more villagery than just making a big chart.
Sangaman is the Anti-Animalem
His post feels like he’s coming up with exactly one reaction to have to each poster. I don’t like that he’s spite-voting someone who has 0 votes as of Wednesday without even making a thorough case. Seems irrelevant.
Where I am at now:
villagers
Animalem
Silman - I like his P4 post. It looks like it was genuinely written in a hurry, yet it actually has a fair amount of content in it.
lean village
globe
filthy - because of aao
ibav
luckay
lean wolves
sangaman - looking back at his P3 post, there was a similar element of forcing himself to say one thing about everyone. Someone else please reread and tell me if you feel the same way.
alice - it’s seriously pathological that she doesn’t think anyone is a villager. Obviously she does (see her comment about my reaction to globe), but she is just not interested in clearing anyone.
ok, since alice and globe and luckay all have me as wolfy then obviously i am doing something wrong. sorry guys. BUT at the same time a few other people have me as really villagery. and aao's case on me is terrible. that's really confusing to me because globe, alice and luckay have decent cases on me. i thought aao was a good player. it seems like in either role he would make a better case on me.
and maybe i am retarded or something, but i don't see why my reads and thoughts are any worse than other's in this game, excepting globe and alice.
aksson and milkreggae have def posted less content than i have. and aao has made a bad case on me when he could have made a good one. and luckay spotted something wolfy about anarchist that i don't understand, but luckay is right a lot, and that is good enough for me early in the game. those guys should all go before me.
I don't have a lot to say that I haven't already said, but here are some final thoughts based on yesterday's posts and a few other things I noticed.
alice16
I know I keep going on about how villagery alice is, but seriously, like everything she does screams villa to me.
Her whole conditional voting thing in post #4 is really villagery. It shows that she cares about ending up on a main wagon and making her vote count and actually wants to lynch one of the players she has been pushing. A wolf wouldn't really care about ending up on a side wagon, and may actually prefer it.
gder
gder is a villager too. He has a very natural tone throughout all of his posts, and his reads are so out there that I just can't see them coming from a wolf. For example:
Quote:
Originally Posted by gder402, P4D1
@luckay- i addressed long posts i thought some were wolfy some were not, alices was way more than globes. globes felt natural while alices felt like she forced herself to post so much...
akson is likely a villager and i cannot believe he has so many voted but we also cannot expect much from him.
What wolf is going to push alice and defend akson at this point?
essedarius
His second post was pretty much what I expected to see from him. He did the "post by post commentary" thing that many people have been doing, but in contrast to some of the other players, his one-sentence comments are pure reads whereas a lot of the other players just gave a summary of what people did or said, "I don't like this post" without giving reasons.
anarchist
I'm leaning wolf on anarchist more and more as the game goes on. I think he's hiding behind his meta. Everyone knows that he's a spammer, and he acts like this format really hampers his game.
Here's my problem with that: Anarchist's normal game is to comment on anything and everything. He just does it in a ton of posts a day instead of one. How is that so hard to do here? You just combine all of your comments into one post instead of 100. He's not doing that, though, and it doesn't look like he's even trying.
Another thing:
Post #3
Quote:
Originally Posted by anarchist, P3D1
sigh, i have no idea how to read anyone in this format.
Post #4
Quote:
Originally Posted by anarchist, P4D1
I'm pretty sure the wolf team is like bobman/luckay/animalem/globetrotter
in fact im pretty sure that's the exact team...
i read all the posts MANY times, and this is what i came up with. my reads are correct. if you don't believe me now, please believe me after i die.
so after one post he went from complaining that he couldn't read anyone to shouting in bold red letters that he knows the exact wolf team?
filthyvvermin
It bothers me that filthy and aao are pushing each other, and I don't buy into sooted's w/w/w case (which is actually pretty weird imo), so I think it means that I'm wrong on one of the two. If aao is lynched an flips wolf I'll have to reevaluate on filthy.
rebonkulous
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Originally Posted by rebonkulous, P4D1
luckay - he basically did what i did as far as reads. For mine you'd just have to normalize it and put into percentages. i more just gave arbitrary numbers as to about how villagery i thought each person's posts were
I'm calling bull****. Rebonk's VM ratings for everyone after post #3 were: 4.2, 9.4, 3.9, 6.5, 6.9, 5.8, 3.2, 7.4, 7.7, 5.6, 7.0.
So rebonk, you're telling me that you arbitrarily decided that aao deserved a VM rating of 4.2? And alice deserved a VM rating of 9.4?
It just feels made up. Whole numbers makes sense. Even 4.5 or 9.5 -- but how do you decide how villagery someone is to a tenth of a point?
MY VOTE
Like I said yesterday, I'm going to be staying on aao.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “ibavly”:
Friday’s are a little bit strange in that we can no longer influence the lynch but will have way more information to work with on monday. The real importance of friday is that final vote. I think anybody making super long posts today is >rand to be a wolf since their information doesn’t really change. I think I’ve been very clear about my opinions on the wagons so no point in discussing those more. The only think of value would be discussing specific villa leans.
I’m feeling strongly that animal and sang are villagers
Anarchist if you die that doesn’t make your reads any more reliable. Nobody is going to listen to you unless you can actually give us some proofs. Decent chance that one of those 4 is a hidden wolf, but they are all horrible votes at this point in the game.
Half of esse’s post is such summarizing. We really need to get more from him. Was really surprised by his assertion that game is ‘almost solved’, I know I don’t feel that way and I know wolves tend to feel there is way too much information that has been revealed. So basically just need more to work with.
bobman
Quote:
Thoroughness is more important than analytical depth. Having lots of datapoints and reactions on d3 is more important than trying really hard to lynch a wolf today, especially when lynching someone like anarchist or AKson is not a bad result even if they are villagers.
This is very true and a very villagery thought to have. I don’t see a wolf saying this ever.
Finally I think I should expand on my village read of gder, thought he was such an obvious villager that there was no need, but apparently people are finding him wolfy. I started playing at the same time as gder and have probably played more games with him then anyone else in this game so I feel my opinion of him should be strongly considered.
Quote:
Written by Detective Code Name “gder402”:
well i figured the some wolves would have unnaturally wolf d1 posts and posts way too focused on game mechanics. i guess everyone went game mechanic posts though
also not to self- dont drink after homework but before beer
posts i found notably villagery
filthyvermin-short sweet and not worried about d1, even places a vote which i found interesting foe people. felt smooooth
ibavly-not sure why, its ibav we have played together a long time and its a tone thing, no other reason but i will not vote him and i will be ranking my votes.
rebonkulous-lazy villagery post is villagery
distinctly wolfy posts
sangaman-felt unnatural, he felt obligated to type useless info and generally tone was so wolfy
silman-sooo feels like hes trying to be a villager but isnt, why do we care about silmans meta? explain it if it comes up.
sangaman rank 3
I don’t agree with all his reads, but the thought process is consistent with gder’s thought process as a villager. It’s not unusual for him to have many reads that are very different from the consensus. As a wolf he tends to make stuff up and not have many reads in general. This is basically exactly the post I expect gder to make as a villager.
He wasn’t going to be making long posts in any role, so if you are finding him wolfy for post length you should turn your eyes to the plenty of players who have been posting even less.
Quote:
Written by Detective Code Name “gder402”:
god i miss avatars. I dont have too much new to add today
sangaman and silman remain wolfy.
filthy vermins post was really villagery though and it stood out for some reason,
akson not posting is probably not significant
alice, i cant decide if shes a wolf trying to look villagery or trying to hard. that post was so unnecessary
globes post was villagery.
tone reads these are nothing more
unless a silman wagon goes im on
sangaman rank 4
The avatar post shows that he is trying to read players. He is struggling to connect people’s names with their posts. As a wolf he’d just be making stuff up.
Similar ideas to what I said about the previous post.
He’s firmly voting a player he finds wolfy but is not going to affect the lynch. Unless the 5 wagons are all villagers, wolf gder would not be committing to a throw away vote when he might be needed to protect a wolf. Wagons are too close for a wolf to do that.
His last post doesn’t really add anything.
So that’s basically the sum of my thoughts on gder.
One more thing I wanted to add. Some people have been suggesting that people are likely to have been bussing with their p1 votes. I want to reemphasize my first vote clear(FVC) theory. I believe, in this game more than any other, a wolf is highly highly unlikely to vote a wolf p1. With really only 3 days to create wagons, any vote that is cast massively increases the odds of that person being a lead wagon. Note that 2 of the 3 players voted p1 are strong wagons now. If one of the first voters are wolves, the people they have voted are basically locks to be villagers, unless the wolf has a complete lack of ability to consider game mechanics.
Full reads list (in order)
villa
Alice16
Gder402
Silman
Sangaman
Animalem18
bobman0330
aao
Globetrotter
Xxsooted
watch list
Anarchist
Rebonkulous
Axel_nld
LuckayLuck
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “LuckayLuck”:
Recap of Day 1
As a group, we've established that by part 3 of a day, there should be clear wagons (I will define a wagon as having 2+ votes). Additionally, the people on these wagons should express their confidence interval on the wagons and who else they are willing to vote. Part 4 of the day is a consolidation on these wagons and final cases on these wagons are made. It has also been demonstrated that "conditional voting" is very helpful on this day. Part 5 is the final consolidation on the top 3 wagons of Part 4.
In terms of mechanics, game day 1 was almost successful in this regard. Where we could have improved is expressing more willingness to change wagons to the "popular" wagons on day 5.
Preparation for Day 2
It will be important to analyze the wagons. Also important will be to really read into the night killed person's posts. I anticipate the wolves want to kill those who exert influence and also are on the right track. As they do in every game.
I note that every single player in the game should give a go at analyzing the wagons, the votes, and everything. Don't not do it just because "you think that you're not great at it and it will be covered by somebody else." This is a key piece of analysis which will really demonstrate your thinking.
I will not be pleased by anybody who doesn't make some attempt to analyze the vote.
Unlike game day 1, game day 2 can start with some serious information, and if everybody actually tries to analyze the wagons, we can get everyone's "take" on how things went.
My Thoughts on Day 1's Lynch
I think the lynch is likely to be AAO. There is a smaller chance, but still possible, that it will be Anarchist. It is extremely unlikely but there is an outside chance that it will be filthyvermin. I have the feeling that there will be some players who don't see this clear division and will remain on their own wagon which has no chance to take off. There may be people who think AAO is a villager who don't vote Anarchist. Furthermore, even though many have expressed displeasure with filthyvermin, I don't think there will be a mass "gunjump" onto filthy (though I think the filthy voters may remain on filthy). The filthy voters probably would want to see Anarchist lynched over AAO which is a shame since they didn't express their conditional voting very well.
For the record, I think AAO is a villager and I think Anarchist is a wolf. I could obviously be wrong on this but I have made pretty clear my stances.
If AAO does get lynched and if he does get revealed to be villager, I hope people pay attention to his reads. I felt they were actually pretty good. I know that globetrotter and alice, who I consider to be the "Pure Duo" in this game, aren't fans of filthyvermin's posts. AAO quite clearly isn't either. It's a shame that the three of you couldn't reconcile differences and lynch filthyvermin. I hope that if AAO does reveal villager, filthyvermin becomes a major person of interest in Game Day 2. (alongside Anarchist...)
My Thoughts on Anarchist's Day 1 Part 4 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist;D1P4
I'm pretty sure the wolf team is like bobman/luckay/animalem/globetrotter
in fact im pretty sure that's the exact team
ibavly is still a villager ldo
i read all the posts MANY times, and this is what i came up with. my reads are correct. if you don't believe me now, please believe me after i die. look at how those 4 players interact with each other and the subtle positive reads they give each other. look at luckay's chart, lol, it's wayyyy too nice to these specific people.
I'm going to start with a quote of the most absurd post in the thread so far.
Anarchist has been a wolf before. Several times. In no wolf game he has been in has there ever been the entire wolf team interacting with each other and giving each other positive reads.
This post seems to me to be pure fabrication. I hope it is, for the alternative is that Anarchist has gone mad.
By the way, Anarchist thinks the wolf team is bobman/luckay/animalem/globetrotter, but he kept his vote on the "easy" vote of Aaronk's Son. This is blatantly inconsistent, just like the rest of Anarchist's posts have been.
Keep an eye on where Anarchist plants his vote on today.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “sangaman”:
aao- I don't find your read on filthyvermin to be particularly convincing. You criticize filthy for posting 1-2 sentences with nothing particularly insightful. I would characterize your d1p2 as 1-2 sentences on a few people with nothing insightful.
Aaronk56- I don't know squat about Gangs, but I'll accept your explanation. Otherwise, I'm disappointed. I don't know why you signed up for this game if you weren't going to participate.
To be clear, I read every word everyone posts, including yours. I hope everyone does the same for my posts.
Alice16- Your Alice's_Friday_Vote_Conditions is excellent. It's very useful for this structure, and I think it makes you more likely to be a villager. I find it hard to believe a wolf would be so forthcoming with her voting intentions and motivations. Great case on bobman, a lot of things I missed.
animalem18- This post has the strongest arguments, reads, and logic from you yet. I'd be stunned if you're doing this as a wolf. You make good points in all your wolfy reads.
anarchist- There are 2380 combinations of wolf teams. You claim to be pretty sure you picked the right one four posts into the game. Next time, use the other ~950 words available to you to support these reads. I kind of think your post (naming the entire wolf team, asking us to heed your words after you're dead) looks like your villager game, but I'm not confident. You can't spam to save yourself here. I don't think you will live very long if your posts don't improve, assuming you survive this week.
essedarius- There's the esse I'm used to. You gave good reads and useful info.
bobman- Lol at my poetry.
Filthyvermin- Consider this a hard defense of filthyvermin. I believe filthy generally comes across as wolfy, others voiced this belief as well. He does not sound like a wolf here. In fact, his tone and behavior remind of me the one villager game I've seen of his. Filthyvermin's thoughts make sense. His effort seems genuine. I've read other people's cases on him, I haven't been particularly convinced. If he is a villager, it is natural for him to want to clear other people for making posts similar to his. We've all done it this game to some extent.
Unfortunately, this is coming too late to make a difference today, but I hope those of you that think I'm a villager sponged my read on filthy enough to not vote him.
Globetrotter- *sadface* that you don't remember that I was in CP, but what you said about shanks is true. I find it hard to believe you didn't realize that rebonk's villager ratings are off the top of his head and not calculated. I was ~99% sure they were made up on the fly. I gave filthy villager points for the quote you gave him wolf points for. In CP, I didn't find myself disagreeing with your reads very often, we were villagers.
LuckayLuck- I don't find it shocking that Anarchist has had short posts. He posts a ton normally, sure, but he does it in a series of short posts. I don't think it's a huge wolf tell that he's posted so little content. His d2 vote on you is bad, as is his lazily voting akson a day late. But can you really be 60% sure that anarchist is a wolf? Sounds extreme. I also don't understand your defense of aao. Ignore the 7 posts/day thing, fine. Having similar reads to you and saying wolves won't be pressured if the consensus is they're villager (which seems obvious)? Doesn't sound like enough to clear him.
Rebonkulous- Who is jason? You say aao hasn't pressured anyone, but it looks to me as though he's pressured filthyvermin. Otherwise, I like that you are sharing your thoughts, which seem logical and honest.
silman- Your reads are solid and convincing.
xxsooted- Yellow text hurts my eyes. Your theory is interesting, but I don't know about bobman and especially filthy. A bit of a stretch for me.
General Thoughts:
-I find it interesting that a lot of people who think aao is wolfy also think filthy is wolfy. Aao has been pushing filthy hard since the start. I usually don't say this about people, but I really don't think aao and filthy are w/w.
-I comment on most/all posts/players because I find it an effective way to organize and communicate my thoughts, reads, and questions.
-I think I spoke too hastily when saying I'd "almost certainly" vote milk/akson/gder yesterday. I underestimated how important the wagons today would be and how today's posts would affect my reads. I'd hate to vote outside of those three people, but I might. Here are my thoughts on my options:
Akson- Another awful post today. However, I'm still not particularly convinced he's a wolf, and I don't think he's going to get lynched today after seeing people defend him or switch off him yesterday.
Anarchist- He might actually get lynched and that wouldn't be too bad. I have a very thin villager read on him, though.
Gder402- Nobody expressed a serious desire to lynch him today, so I'll revisit him next week.
That leaves two people I'm really torn between.
MilkReggae- Ibavly and Silman, likely villagers and strong players, are locked on him. I've shared my own reasons why he would be a good lynch. Seer cover obliterated. He didn't even post today and thus did nothing to improve his case (antispew?). He was one of the three people I said I'd vote for today.
aao- Four people are set on voting him. I too think he is quite likely to be a wolf. He is the most likely to be lynched today, and voting him would minimize the chance Filthy is lynched.
I could flip a coin. Instead, I will follow through with what I said yesterday and vote:
first off i'm interested to see the reactions i get for my post
I think this post is kinda wolfy, this carries an implication of "if you call this wolfy I'll call you a wolf". Which is wolfy
Quote:
2ndly i'm going to say anyone who made mechanics posts are >> rand to be wolf and should be looked at first
This is just plain not true. If anything I think they are >rand villa, though only slightly.
Quote:
3rdly i'm going to start reading now
This is a wolf tell imo, wolves are much more likely to tell the thread when they start reading, as a kind of "well everything before this is excusable because I hadn't read the thread, but look at me I'm reading the thread, here comes read I want recognition for making reads look at me!"
This would be why I didn't reverse my read just because you "posted some words" Infact, I think you are being actively wolfy.
Oh, your reads seemed poorly reasoned as well, all your wolf leans are for things so thin they seem fabricated. Your interaction with me looks really forced as well:
Quote:
ok what you said about me is completely wrong. i rarely get mislynched as a villager and when i'm a villager i fight it tooth and nail. i've only been mislynched twice since my first two games. they were in a vanilla 21er and HP3, both of which i was afk for.
games i've gone deep in as a villager:
CoA
vanilla wizard of oz
those are the ones that come off the top of my head, but i know i've been in f5 more than just once. though i haven't ever been in an f3 except in turbos
most games i'm a villager i'm NKed at some point and its usually a good mix between early, middle and late game
but you're right about the turbo wolf part
/rant
It's almost like you are trying to find something to talk to me about, esp since this came in 3rd post not 2nd. Generally forcing interaction with people is one of two things: A wolf trying to get a villager on their side or a villager trying to provoke someone they think is a wolf into stumbling. Between the tone and the timing I think it's the former.
Also, I have a question, but only wolves are allowed to answer:
Who is hotter?
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Code Name “xxsooted”:
RANDOM THOUGHTS
omg I feel like village is just crushing right now. drinks all around. lol @ the wolves' nk decision tonight.
good post alice.
globe - I think if you ignore rebonk's p1, and imagine rebonk as really being a villager that really made his post 30 min. before eod, rebonk looks fine.
For the 4th wolf, milk is obv a candidate, but I think he's closer to rand than you think ibavly. Of course after-POE rand is pretty dam good at this point.
I'm gonna examine luckay's candidacy and call it a day. Really happy with yesterday's posts.
LUCKAY 4th WOLF?
P2:
-Calls AAO a villager for the 7 day thing.
-Tells Bobman excellent strategy pointers.
-Tells filthy "I hope you have a better second post. Why such a short first post?"
P3:
-Now turning on AAO. This is within luckay's wolf range because he is a good enough wolf to notice thread momentum (not saying the change is wolfy, because as a villager he could notice that aao is actually wolfy, but I'm not giving any vpoints).
-Likes bobman's willing to work together attitude, and likes his reads. Bobman's reads at this point are 100% based on effort (which doesn't reflect well upon luckay's comment that he likes his reads).
-Thinks that filthy could've delved into his reads further
P4:
-Would prefer anarchist lynch. Mentions filthy as another good lynch.
-Defends aao saying he had the same reads as him. Says this quote
Quote:
Wolves will be harder to pressure if the general gist of the thread is that they are a villager
shows aao is coming from a villager POV.
Wolves do this: "I really like X as the lynch, but Y is a good 2nd option," where X is a mislynchable villager and Y is a wolf.
Also it is wolfy that he found alice so villagery, yet he doesn't question bobman on his reaction to alice's post. I hope he's a wolf b/c that would mean I preemptively called out the wolfiness there
I think he's a good peek. Alrite later and gl if I die!
Sippin on coke and rum
I'm like so what I'm drunk
It's the freaking weekend baby
I'm about to have me some fun
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
Written by Detective Homer:
Dear fellow detectives,
It will grieve you to learn that my health continues its miserable decline. I am in continuous state of pain and agony from these gruesome wounds. Even a task as simple as writing this letter causes me great discomfort. My mortal struggle aside, I have managed to keep up with your investigations of the traitors in our ranks.
After reviewing your reports there appears to be a consensus that Detective Code Name "aao" is most likely to have betrayed my whereabouts to ibavly. I will trust the judgment of my detectives and expose the true identity of “aao” to all gangsters of New Pog looking for an easy kill.
Anchorwoman: That's all the reports for tonight. We'll be back after these short messages.
Enty continues to stare blankly at the television screen in the crowded bar as the commercials run. Amplify immediately notices and tries to gain his attention.
Amplify: Something on your mind Enty?
Enty: Huh? Uhh, no. It’s just been a long day. I’ll be right back.
After navigating his way through the crowded bar Enty reaches the vacant men’s room. The stench of urine only serves to exacerbate his feverish condition. Enty heads for the sink to cool off his burning face with a splash of cold water. As he uses his hands to press the cold water against his face he is alarmed to find they reek of blood. He stares down at them and his head begins to throb violently. To cleanse his hands of the foul stench Enty washes them vigorously. But the pain in his head intensifies, his whole body fatigues, and his vision begins to fade…
Before Enty can even turn on the faucet to wash off the blood dripping from his hands the phone in the kitchen rings. He spins back around to the nightmare he just left. There is what was a man chained to the wall across him. The corpse is wearing a yellow trench coat stained brown with its own blood. A yellow fedora lay close by, its insides filled with bloodied pliers, drills, and knives. Enty, unfazed by the massacre before him, walks straight to the phone in the kitchen and picks it up.
Detective Homer: Well?
Enty: He just gave out.
Detective Homer: That’s a shame. Was it as we expected?
Enty: No. I tortured him beyond his limit and he swore to the end that he was loyal to you.
Detective Homer: It’s fine.
Enty: I don’t see how it’s fine.
Detective Homer: It’s fine. It just means you have a lot more work to do.
Re: Detectives United: The Lost Reports Game Thread
New Pog
Lynch Avenue
Voracious Appetites
September 18, 2021
10:06pm
Cut off by a soccer mom in an SUV, Enty slams his horn and sticks his hand out the window to present a most ungentlemanly gesture. After muttering a few obscenities under his breath he collects himself and checks his road rage. Attributing his poor temper to an empty stomach, he pulls into the drive-thru to grab a late night meal. He orders the combo meal, pays the teenaged cashier, parks in the restaurant’s lot, and begins his midnight feast.
Maybe the burger is undercooked, or the long stressful day he’s had has finally caught up to him, but suddenly Enty feels nauseous. He lets down the window to get some air but the relief doesn't come. He starts to sweat profusely and then the violent throbbing in his head returns. With every palpitation it feels like his head is being split in two. Enty’s strength fails him, he loses all feeling, and his vision blurs…
With the radio blasting so loud the steering wheel vibrates, Enty cruises down Main Street. As he reaches the next intersection a man in a dark coat holding a brown package in his left hand waves him down with his right. Enty pulls over and unlocks the passenger side door to let him in.
Andynan: Geez Enty, can ya turn it down a bit? I could hear you coming from a mile away.
Enty: Sorry. What’s in the bag?
Andynan: Combo meal from the new fast food joint that opened up: Voracious Appetites.
Enty: Smells good. Where we headed?
Andynan: An apartment complex downtown. The Administrator wants us to keep an eye on one of Homer’s guys there is a hit out for.
A few minutes later the two gangsters are parked in an alleyway across from a rundown apartment building. Andynan unpacks his combo meal and digs in. Enty bites his lip nervously as he watches the building for any sign of movement. They aren’t there long before a man in the apartment on the eighth floor walks out onto the fire escape. xxsooted pulls out a pipe, packs in some tobacco, and lights. Before he can even finish the first drag a shot rings out and his head bursts like a balloon. His body sways briefly before slumping over the rail and dropping into the alleyway below.
Andynan: What the ****?!
Andynan drops his burger in shock making a mess of his trousers, but his eyes remain glued to the dead body in the alleyway across the street. Enty, attuned to the sound of the shot, gets out of the car and looks up. A man with a sniper rifle stands at the edge of the rooftop in plain view and immediately notices Enty staring at him below. Before Enty can even think to reach for his piece, the assassin runs out of sight. Instead of recklessly pursuing the killer, Enty crosses the street and looks down in sorrow at the remains of the legendary detective.
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