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06-15-2009 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I'm afraid I'm going to be a little spazmonkey today myself. I can feel it.
you already are, my friend

you already are
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06-15-2009 , 05:50 PM
Wait if you tell me PVN is clear because BEG's voting him than I might be able to clear you sun.

I feel so dirty trying to lynch you but you have only yourself to blame.
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06-15-2009 , 05:51 PM
I forgot about Ship It Trebek, that's a good vote too
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06-15-2009 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
The jury is not out on pvn.

He's an obvious villager.
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
I'm not sure about pvn, and I don't know about Sun at all, but I can see villa Sun saying he's an obvious villager. Fwiw.
Of course and when he does I normally nod my head in approval because sun is my life mason but calling pvn an obvious villager is double yoo tee eff
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06-15-2009 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
holy **** sun even changed his location dude is like 99% wolf
That was before this game. And while we're talking about weird declarations, I find you having Sun as 99% wolf a hell of a lot odder than Sun having pvn "obvious villager".
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06-15-2009 , 05:52 PM
Really, ZeTurd? You want to see reasons? My big reason post has been quoted I think two times on this page, and it's on the previous page.

Here it is since you missed it the first time though, with a little bit of revision.


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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck's reasoning against DiggerTheDog, revised and repeated
For those keeping track at home, that's three wolf tells for DiggerTheDog

1: Did not do everything he could to help the village when an opportunity clearly presented itself.
2: Posted fluff / roleplay.
3: Lack of posting serious analysis by this time. I have played with him in the previous games. After I accused him of being a wolf, he made no effort to refute at all.


The fact that I was on him early has made DiggerTheDog scared to post further.

I have intimidated him to submission.

DiggerTheDog is a wolf with over 85% certainty.
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06-15-2009 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
qfPVN: See now this is grade A prime nittery right here.
Yes, but it's more liek the useful nittery I was talking about.
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06-15-2009 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
That was before this game. And while we're talking about weird declarations, I find you having Sun as 99% wolf a hell of a lot odder than Sun having pvn "obvious villager".
This has never happened before. I don't even know what to think myself.

It's like I had a vision and Sun had these huge fangs or whatever it is the unicorn hating guys have and I was like "what, not my Sun Tzu!!!" but then my blood ran cold and I voted him because he's evil.
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06-15-2009 , 05:54 PM
eh unvote
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06-15-2009 , 05:55 PM
4. Zeturd
- I have experienced ZT game once as W/W in Bitchi- game. And Once as a villa/villa.
One thing I have noted which is different between this game and his wolf game. Is the concern over his alignment and perceived self-awareness of how he sounds - unlike with some players is actually not a wolf tell but actually a villa tell.
From memory - Zeturd as wolf is far more authoritative and less self-consious of posts.
Therefore ZT= Free and easy posts/ authoratitive = wolf tell
ZT = self consious "i Know how this sounds" posts = Villa tell

Of what I have read so far.

ZT = Likely Villa.
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06-15-2009 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ReneLuske
why does that post contain lol its a serious and perfect outline of my thought process as to why i think karak is the highest probable wolf aorn

and it seriously has 0% to do with spite (ok maybe 0,3%)
Karak isn't even close to being the most likely wolf. He's quite villagery in fact.
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06-15-2009 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
I think I may have misread JD's second post. The "we have a good group of companions" is a little ambiguous. It's not clear if he is saying that he thinks the roles are good or if the people filling them are good for those roles.
Based on the composition of the companions, I'd venture to say it's pretty likely he's saying that the people filling them are good for the roles. The question for me here is: Do you think him saying it in one sense is more villagery/wolfy than the other?
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06-15-2009 , 05:56 PM
i guess it would be lame to call WN 99% villa or an obvious villager, so I will just say that I believe with a reasonably high (but not exaggeratedly so) level of confidence that he is a villager based on his recent posts.
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06-15-2009 , 05:57 PM
aardvarksrus
AriesRam voted J.D.
biggerboat voted ship it trebek
bobman0330
BrownEyedGirl voted
Caedus voted Karak567
DiggertheDog
dmk voted ship it trebek
essedarius
ewalsh420 voted unvote
FCBLComish voted McAvoy
goofyballer
gtpitch
J.D.
Karak567 voted ReneLuske
LuckayLuck voted DiggerTheDog
Ludovic Banhammer
McAvoy voted VayaConDios
Nez477 voted J.D.
pvn voted Caedus
rchandra voted ZeTurd
ReneLuske voted Karak567
Scrubbo
ship_it_trebek voted Karak567
sixfour
Sun Tzu voted Xr8ed
Swiitch voted VayaConDios
Tao1
ughaulkghalugh
VayaConDios voted wahoopride
wahoopride voted ship it trebek
wdcbooks
well named voted BrownEyedGirl
Wiild
Xr8ed voted pvn
XXsooted
ZeTurd voted ship it trebek
Zurvan voted Swiitch

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BrownEyedGirl 1
Caedus 1
DiggerTheDog 1
J.D. 2
Karak567 3
McAvoy 1
pvn 1
ReneLuske 1
ship it trebek 4
Swiitch 1
VayaConDios 2
wahoopride 1
Xr8ed 1
ZeTurd 1
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06-15-2009 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
This is EXACTLY the kind of thing I was hoping wouldn't be discussed. Seriously, Luckay, you think epi, GT1T et al needs our help with strategy? I actually thought about that first suggestion of yours there, but realized there's a pretty nasty problem: Wolfy players tends to get wagoned/lynched, you see how that kind lead to problems for our power roles?
I so agree with you ZT....Luckay shouldn't have gone there.

Also, I think we are forgetting about the Healers and the Ungifted, who are pro village players. If they are chosed by the Companion, doesn't their choice also fail? So, assuming that just because a choice failed, that person is automatically a wolf isn't true. That's misleading, Luckay, and if that were the case...this game would be too easy. I don't think VR builds a game like that.
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06-15-2009 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
4. Zeturd
- I have experienced ZT game once as W/W in Bitchi- game. And Once as a villa/villa.
One thing I have noted which is different between this game and his wolf game. Is the concern over his alignment and perceived self-awareness of how he sounds - unlike with some players is actually not a wolf tell but actually a villa tell.
From memory - Zeturd as wolf is far more authoritative and less self-consious of posts.
Therefore ZT= Free and easy posts/ authoratitive = wolf tell
ZT = self consious "i Know how this sounds" posts = Villa tell

Of what I have read so far.

ZT = Likely Villa.
This is actually kinda good. I think the difference you're noting is that as a wolf I'm sometimes deliberately making posts for the sole purpose of sounding breezy / laid back (and now I gotta change up, lol), the authoritative part is very situational though, I've been known to scream pretty loudly as a villager as well. Btw, what's the point of the "4." there?

Luckay, what do you think of this post?
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06-15-2009 , 06:00 PM
BiggerBoat - Having played deep in one vanilla game V/V and other as villa/ Seer ( Where I am seer). Biggers alignment based on tone and attitude became pretty apparent early on. His reads and analysis of other players is not always on the mark.
So I would suggest to determine his alignment - analyses his general attitude and focus rather than whether his analysis is good or not. ( With the exclusion that if he is very accurate with reads/ analysis the become very concerned)

Biggerboats reads have not been too good.

Biggerboat = Likely villa.
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06-15-2009 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
i know i'm focusing on rene quite a bit here, so i want to take the time to point out that BEG is not in a happy place right now
BEG should be clear by now and isn't. There's a very good chance she's a wolf.
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06-15-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
This is actually kinda good. I think the difference you're noting is that as a wolf I'm sometimes deliberately making posts for the sole purpose of sounding breezy / laid back (and now I gotta change up, lol), the authoritative part is very situational though, I've been known to scream pretty loudly as a villager as well. Btw, what's the point of the "4." there?

Luckay, what do you think of this post?
Content good, but the form he's taking (posting player reads one at a time going down the list) is bad imo. He is thorough as a villager, he did an excellent job in the recent game I lost in f3 but this feels forced to me. Maybe just one time I kind of dig the luckay-wagon.
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06-15-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
This is actually kinda good. I think the difference you're noting is that as a wolf I'm sometimes deliberately making posts for the sole purpose of sounding breezy / laid back (and now I gotta change up, lol), the authoritative part is very situational though, I've been known to scream pretty loudly as a villager as well. Btw, what's the point of the "4." there?

Luckay, what do you think of this post?
Why did you skip DiggerTheDog's 1, 2, and 3?
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06-15-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
I so agree with you ZT....Luckay shouldn't have gone there.

Also, I think we are forgetting about the Healers and the Ungifted, who are pro village players. If they are chosed by the Companion, doesn't their choice also fail? So, assuming that just because a choice failed, that person is automatically a wolf isn't true. That's misleading, Luckay, and if that were the case...this game would be too easy. I don't think VR builds a game like that.
Well, yeah, but at least the healer can save himself by claiming. The way to solve this is to wait with resolving "bounced" players until later in the game when we're more likely to be able to piece it together correctly.
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06-15-2009 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
This is actually kinda good. I think the difference you're noting is that as a wolf I'm sometimes deliberately making posts for the sole purpose of sounding breezy / laid back (and now I gotta change up, lol), the authoritative part is very situational though, I've been known to scream pretty loudly as a villager as well. Btw, what's the point of the "4." there?

Luckay, what do you think of this post?
Sorry Rather than put them all in one post - I have marked them in order.

This is mostly for my own purposes - So I can review my notes intra-game - so that when the pressure of making key decisions on lynches later on - I can see whether my "in-game" feel matches with my previous experience.

So I like have markers for note/review.

On your tone changing etc as villa ZT - I would accept that to be true at face-value. But until I actually see the difference myself - I will go with my current theory on your game.
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06-15-2009 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
Content good, but the form he's taking (posting player reads one at a time going down the list) is bad imo. He is thorough as a villager, he did an excellent job in the recent game I lost in f3 but this feels forced to me. Maybe just one time I kind of dig the luckay-wagon.
Exactly.
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06-15-2009 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
Why did you skip DiggerTheDog's 1, 2, and 3?
I've been awaiting you making a proper case for me so you'll have to forgive me if my recollection of his prior posts is somewhat fuzzy at this point.
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06-15-2009 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
I've been awaiting you making a proper case for me so you'll have to forgive me if my recollection of his prior posts is somewhat fuzzy at this point.
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