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02-23-2009 , 05:56 PM
This is a werewolf game. More particularly, this is a joint POG/Lounge werewolf game. Because many of the players have never played before, the rules will be explained in more detail that usual.


The Setup

There are 21 players. Of these, 14 are regular villagers and 2 are seers; together, these 16 players constitute the good team. The other 5 players are wolves, who together constitute the evil team.

This a completely "vanilla" game, meaning there are no roles other than these three.

Each player received a PM with his or her role assignment. (If you didn't, contact me now.)

Players were assigned their roles with a random number generator, without regard to, among other things, their experience, when they signed up, or whether they had confirmed their participation.


The Voting

Each day, each player is allowed (and encouraged) to vote to lynch a player. To do so, type the name of the player in bold; if you want to be sure the moderator sees it, you could be so kind as to write something like "vote: Helen of Troy", but it is not required.You may abbreviate the name of the player, provided it is clear to other players (and the moderator) whom you mean.

You may remove your vote by posting "unvote". You may change your vote simply by voting the new player; you do not need to unvote. (It wouldn't hurt, though.)

At the end of the scheduled game day, the player with the most votes is lynched, and his role revealed in the thread. If two or more players are tied for the most votes, one of the tied players is chosen randomly by the moderator.

If at any time during the day any player has a majority the possible votes on him (e.g., with nine players alive, five or more is a majority), the day ends immediately and that player is lynched. Any player who believes a player has reached majority should post "night", and all other posting should cease while the vote count is confirmed.

At "must lynch", i.e, when the village must successfully lynch a wolf or lose immediately, voting rules are somewhat different; this will be explained when the time comes.


The Timing

All times give are server time, which is also Easter Standard Time.

I will open the thread every morning by posting "It is day." I will shoot for 1 am server time, but I may be late; you may not post in the thread until I have made the morning post. (Note: it will not be formally locked, as I lack the power to do that, so you need to refrain on your own.)

Day lasts until 6 pm (again, EST). Posting at 6:00 is acceptable, and votes with that time stamp will be counted. Posting after that, even just a minute after, is not acceptable, even if I have not yet declared it night by posting "It is night." Do not post in the thread at any time, for any reason, between the end of the day and the opening of the thread the next morning.

Weekends are different: There is not "night" Saturday night -- the thread remains open from Saturday morning until Sunday evening. There is no scheduled Saturday night lynch.

If any player reaches majority and is lynched before 10 am, the moderator may, at his discretion, reopen the thread for a second game day that same day. He will do so only if it seems clear that this will not unduly disadvantage either side.


Communication

Villagers and seers may not communicate with any other player in the game, other than by posting in this thread. Any communication about the substance of the game (i.e., anything beyond the fact that the game is being played and that you are in it) is prohibited.

Wolves may communicate with each other by any means they desire during wolf chat. In general, wolf chat lasts for the duration of the night, and ends immediately upon the opening of the thread in the morning. No wolf chat is permitted while the thread is open.


The Roster

AndrewGreve
Atakdog
axel_nld
BombayBadboy
CalledDownLight
ElliotR
fatjaz
GusMahler
Joe Butch
JopkeAccount
krille
Ludovic Banhammer
manupod
norseman1066
Sixfour
spaceman Bryce
subandi
Sun Tzu
TehVader
twitch1977
XXSooted


Questions

Any questions regarding the rules should be submitted to the moderator by PM.

It is still night. Do not post in this thread.
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02-23-2009 , 06:06 PM
Other Rules

Participation

Werewolf is a participatory game. While it may be good strategy simply never to post, it is not fun for other players when people play that way. Accordingly, everyone is expected to participate on a regular basis.

This means that everyone is expected to post something every day, but it means more than that. Popping into the thread once a day to say "posting to avoid modkill" is an excellent way to get modkilled. Participate. Try -- to find wolves, or to look like you're doing so. Yes, every day. (The weekend, for this purpose, is one day.) If you don't, I will find a substitute for you, or modkill you.

If you aren't going to be able to post at all on a given game day, tell me beforehand. Life happens; we get that. Once or twice is not an enormous problem, but if it's going to be an ongoing issue, we'll have to find you a substitute.

The exception to the participation rule is the first game day. I understand that some people are traveling or unavailable all day that day, so there is no participation requirement in effect until the second day.


Angleshooting

If it seems like it shouldn't be allowed, it isn't. Go with that. I will use my discretion to decide what is allowed. That said, in the thread, just about everything is allowed, except things that are specifically prohibited.

Lying is not only allowed, it is expected.

Quoting or paraphrasing communications with or PMs from the mod is not allowed. This applies to role PMs as well as any other PMs that I may send you. Do not talk about your PMs from me at all, period.

Player assistance with vote counts will be greatly appreciated when the moderator is not available. If you make a mistake while doing one, that's to be expected. Do not intentionally make any, though.

Posting after day has ended, whether I have called "night" or not, is not allowed. I reserve the right to modkill anyone who I feel has either violated this rule intentionally or has significantly altered the balance of the game by doing so.

Wagering on the game is not allowed.

Discussing the game outside the thread is not allowed. Sometimes this comes up when someone is in two games at once; basically, the most you can say outside this thread is that the game is going on, and so-andso was or is in it.

Posting in the thread after you're dead is not allowed, much. You may post once after you are killed, if you want, but you may not say anything substantive -- "go, village" or "take it down, wolves" are about the limit. After that, stay out of the thread; root, but root silently.

It is best if after you are dead you don't discuss the substance of the game with anyone else in the game, or even other people, until it's over. We may need substitutes, word gets around... stuff happens. Best to keep things to yourself.

If you have any doubts about what is ok and what isn't, do not discuss this game at all in any other thread until it is over. I can and will modkill you in this game for something you post in another thread.

Editing of Posts

Do not edit any post in this thread, for any reason. Not to correct a typo; not to add a funny "Last edited by" note. Just don't.

Beyond that -- if you're not sure, ask.

It is still night. Do not post in this thread.
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02-23-2009 , 06:10 PM
Suggestions


Experience

Many of the players in this game have played before; many have not. The dynamic will be interesting, and anyone open to learning will be able to do so, but some caution is needed.

Inexperienced players: I suggest you listen carefully to your more experienced counterparts -- they have done this before, in some cases many times. Listen to them, consider their advice carefully. Do not, however, trust them, as their goal is to win the game.

Experienced players: I suggest you exercise a bit of restraint at first, lest things get off to an unpleasant start. You are not expected to soft play -- everyone is trying to win. However, it behooves everyone to recall that this is not an all star game. Also, while you may say anything you want, I would appreciate it if you do not make misrepresentations about the structure of the game, or about basic strategy. Ideally, some of the new players will stick around; please do not drive them away. And finally, I suggest you listen to them -- fresh eyes and new thoughts may turn out to be quite valuable.


Post Volume

While everyone is expected to participate, it can be overdone. If everyone spams the thread, this 21 player game will soon become unreadable to those who want to catch up or do research on what has transpired, and overwhelming to those who did not realize that werewolf is often all-consuming. (Sorry, didn't we mention that?) A modicum of restraint may be in order, particularly in the first few days.


Fighting

Werewolf is an adversarial game. It is also a game of very limited information. Whether for these reasons or others, discussions sometimes become arguments, and feelings sometimes get hurt. In particular, two things are often difficult to deal with: being called names, and getting wrongly wagoned (voted for lynching) or mislynched (meaning, lynched when you're a villager).

Name calling... maybe shouldn't happen, but it does. And I won't stop it, as it is, for better or worse, part of the game. Recall, though, that when someone calls you a moron or says your play is ******ed, he means it in the context of the game -- and he may not mean it at all. Maybe he (or she; you know what I mean) is a wolf trying to agitate you, or a villager trying to make you crack if you're a wolf. On the other hand, maybe he really thinks that right now you are being ******ed. And he may even be right; in retrospect, it may turn out that you're making an obvious mistake. People do that, even people who have played this game a bunch.

Remember always: it's a game. People are trying to win, and you need to, too, but it's not worth getting upset over. Put down the mouse, step away from the keyboard. Maybe take a walk -- you could probably use some fresh air anyway.

Being wrongly wagoned or mislynched... happens. In fact, it's inevitable. In a typical game, especially early on, more villagers are lynched than wolves (until seer peeks come into play, anyway). The person saying you're "wolfy" and trying to kill you for it may really believe that you're a wolf -- and the fact that he can't see that you're "obviously" a villager doesn't make him a bad person, it just makes him wrong. Also, he may be a wolf trying to get rid of you -- but assuming that that has to be the case is usually a bad plan. Meanwhile, if the whole village seems to think you're acting like a wolf, they may be right -- if you're the only one who can see that you're an obvious villager, you need to rethink what "obvious" means. And if you can't convince them, remember that in the long run, if your team wins it doesn't matter if you're alive or dead -- you still won.


Giving Up

That having been said, it is rarely right to give up as a villager. Good players very rarely roll over and say "I guess you have to lynch me" -- while those times happen, they are rare. It is your job as a villager not just to help the village find wolves but also to help it find villagers -- including you.

With that in mind, tantrums when people are wagoned, however wrong-headed and lazy the village may be at the time, will not be tolerated by the moderator. If you find the urge to vote yourself to spite the village, restrain it -- because if you indulge that urge, I may modkill you and give the village another lynch, which would hurt your team even more than the mistake it's making. (Everything in these two paragraphs applies pretty much only to villagers; it doesn't often come up when the person in question is a wolf, but tantrums will not be appreciated regardless who throws them).

If you have trouble, just remind yourself that it may all be the wolves' doing, and that's actually a compliment. If they want to get rid of you, you must be doing something right.


Playing to Win

Villagers and seers win if the village wins. Each wolf wins if the wolves win. This is a team game.

Unfortunately, sometimes it's not so simple. We're human; everyone wants to play. To be honest, the villager who is mislynched day one (if that happens), and the one who is eaten night one, are not going to get as much out of the game as those who make it into the second week. It is the nature of the game, however, that some people have to be eliminated early. Sorry; next game, maybe you'll get to play to end game. Meanwhile, it really is a lot of fun watching the game from the sidelines; try it.

Sometimes you may be tempted to do something that probably isn't best for your team, but will tend to make you survive longer . I can't keep you from doing that, but I will implore you to forgo it. Playing to survive, when you think it hurts your team, is contrary to the spirit of the game. Do not do it.


What Matters and What Doesn't

The answer's easy: none of this matters. It's a game. It's fun. If you don't have fun and think you won't next time, don't do it again. But meanwhile, enjoy this game, and help others do the same.

We don't play for money. There is no fame for werewolf players. There are no championships to win. If you keep at it long enough, people may start saying you're really, really good at the game -- but even then you won't win a whole lot more than your share, because there are large stochastic elements that prevent anyone from dominating. Similarly, if you lose -- maybe this game, maybe a lot of games -- it's not a big deal. Maybe you're just unlucky. Maybe your teammates let you down. Heck, maybe you stink -- but so what? (I'm pretty sure it was about five games into my werewolf career before I was right about anything)

However, you need to be warned. Some of you will find that this silly, text-based Internet game with a bunch of people you're never going to meet in real life, which requires lots of effort but on which nothing rides, takes on a life of its own. You will spend hours at it. You will dream about it. You will not be able to explain why, to any rational person who doesn't play, but it will matter. A lot.

At that point, you will be one of us.


It is still night. Do not post in this thread.
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02-23-2009 , 06:12 PM
Many thanks to Atakdog for the intro posts btw - lots of good stuff in there
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02-23-2009 , 06:17 PM
So with all that covered - let's get started.

Player list / votecount template test

[0] AndrewGreve
[0] Atakdog
[0] axel_nld
[0] BombayBadboy
[0] CalledDownLight
[0] ElliotR
[0] fatjaz
[0] GusMahler
[0] Joe Butch
[0] JopkeAccount
[0] krille
[0] Ludovic Banhammer
[0] manupod
[0] norseman1066
[0] Sixfour
[0] spaceman Bryce
[0] subandi
[0] Sun Tzu
[0] TehVader
[0] twitch1977
[0] XXSooted

14 villagers/5 wolves/2 seers out of the players listed above

Seers got a pregame peek of their choice

Wolves did not have any pregame wolfchat

First lynch will be Tuesday at 6 PM Eastern Time

IT IS DAY
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02-23-2009 , 06:20 PM
vader ldo
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02-23-2009 , 06:21 PM
My d1 votes will be based on avatars.

I'm NOT voting for XXSooted.
Worst avatar I can think of just looking at the list: VOTE: Twitch1977
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02-23-2009 , 06:22 PM
Also, as I suggested in the OOT thread let's not kill any Loungers for whom this is a first game on d1.
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02-23-2009 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
My d1 votes will be based on avatars.

I'm NOT voting for XXSooted.
Worst avatar I can think of just looking at the list: VOTE: Twitch1977
Wow harsh!
T
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02-23-2009 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Twitch1977
Wow harsh!
T
Sorry Who is that, anyway?
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02-23-2009 , 06:25 PM
diebitter
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02-23-2009 , 06:26 PM
MOD NOTE

My AIM is HerbieGRD1981 - feel free to AIM me as an alternative to PM if you prefer
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02-23-2009 , 06:27 PM
sup thread? lets get this party started.

XXsooted
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02-23-2009 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
Sorry Who is that, anyway?
Dude that's my dad!

er I mean:

http://www.trailerparkboys.com/

T
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02-23-2009 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
My d1 votes will be based on avatars.
Excellent, I appear to be safe.
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02-23-2009 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
Excellent, I appear to be safe.
this is funny.
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02-23-2009 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Twitch1977
Dude that's my dad!

er I mean:

http://www.trailerparkboys.com/

T
Nice. Holy cow I just noticed that you have 505 posts in four years. Plz PM brian for directions to the omg omg omg threads
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02-23-2009 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
Nice. Holy cow I just noticed that you have 505 posts in four years. Plz PM brian for directions to the omg omg omg threads
Yah and like 150 are from the other WW game. A few years back I realized I really sucked at poker so I left 2+2, now I've returned to find I really suck at WW.

T
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02-23-2009 , 06:33 PM
Hey all

I'm a villager but maybe dr spaceman isnt
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02-23-2009 , 06:33 PM
Who else is a complete n00b?
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02-23-2009 , 06:34 PM
spaceman Bryce
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02-23-2009 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
Excellent, I appear to be safe.
LOL. Indeed you are. From me, anyway
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02-23-2009 , 06:35 PM
WAT!!!! Don't kill spaceman!!
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02-23-2009 , 06:40 PM
Hi all,

first timer here and eager to play. Note that I'm a euro so I'm not sure if I'll be around late in the gameday. Probably will be, because this is exactly the type of game I get addicted to all too quickly
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02-23-2009 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BombayBadboy
Hi all,

first timer here and eager to play. Note that I'm a euro so I'm not sure if I'll be around late in the gameday. Probably will be, because this is exactly the type of game I get addicted to all too quickly
never smoke crack, that **** is addicting too
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