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Old 01-05-2010, 10:56 PM   #76
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Oh, I saw Luckay's video. I meant I'd be interested in watching one from mac, or anyone else for that matter. Thanks though.
Oh, sorry.

I would love a Mac video.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:03 PM   #77
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Is that game over/LL's role outed?
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:04 PM   #78
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Is that game over/LL's role outed?
Yeah it ended earlier today.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:05 PM   #79
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If he was a villager in that game I can almost gurantee I can clear him from videos in the future and nail him as a wolf; I have the most amazing tells ever, can't share them but wow there's no way he can hide that ever
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:07 PM   #80
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Am currently working on the simulation suggested by Kokiri. Some people are going to be very surprised by the results.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:09 PM   #81
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If he was a villager in that game I can almost gurantee I can clear him from videos in the future and nail him as a wolf; I have the most amazing tells ever, can't share them but wow there's no way he can hide that ever
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:11 PM   #82
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I think it's so brilliant that I need to leave it in some post encrypted and post the key to decrypt it once I decide there was enough abuse.
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Am currently working on the simulation suggested by Kokiri. Some people are going to be very surprised by the results.
v0.1 now ready: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...ft-pog-676899/
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:25 PM   #84
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I have sort of an "Optimal Bussing Strategy" idea floating around in my head, and I'll write out something longer, but I think I can sum it up as "always be bussing." I don't actually mean always, but more like the majority of times a fellow wolf is taking heat.

Relatedly, many players defend only in the wolf role. If you want the option of defending a wolf, you must sometimes defend as a villager, and it is therefore easier for your meta to never defend or to rarely defend (such that it's role independent because it's rare).

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:27 PM   #85
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That is extremely cool.
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You should defend in any role, if you feel that you have good reasons to present for why a person is a villager
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:29 PM   #87
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defend yourself, defend other people, what do you mean by defend?
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:32 PM   #88
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defend yourself, defend other people, what do you mean by defend?
Derail a wagon, mostly. I am aware of several players who only whine about a given wagon when they're a wolf and it's their partner, or they're seer and it's a peeked villager.

They should "whine" in every role.

Would it not be easier to - unless you're super confident of a read - simply not do this and, to compensate as a wolf, bus more frequently?

EDIT: Because that way when you try to derail as wolf or villager it's a rare event and approximately role neutral, and will be listened to more frequently, and as a wolf you will get some credit for busing because you are known to, sometimes, make strong defenses.
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So I was thinking of the Monte Hall problem


Lets say its a 25 player game which is on d4, so 19 players left. You are a villager and you suspect 2 players equally, Player A and Player B.

You vote Player A.

The seer comes out with 4 villager peeks (neither of which is Player A or Player B).


Is voting Player B "due to Monty Hall" the correct move?
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Old 01-06-2010, 05:17 AM   #90
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also, now that "bussing is always the right strat" is out there bussing suddenly becomes never the right strat

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