why doesn't the "explanation" apply to NGL? The first part of what you posted makes no sense to me. Are you trying to say that him calling the reads ******ed outweighs the actual read?

I don't think he really thinks that's why he got lynched. That's just why he got heat early in the game, & most of the heat was directed at him by Don to get him lynched over himself (w/w).

I put an early vote on him, for fun & to see how he'd react, for not being there at SOD today, & now he's defensive about it. I'm not sure how I feel about it, as villagers are often defensive as well, but your logic jump is quite odd to me considering he did exactly what you said would be very wolfy if he did while saying he's your strongest villager read.

If someone does x, that's very wolfy.
NGL does x.
NGL is a villager.

Do you see the issue I have with that logic & why I quoted the posts that I did?

It comes down to what you want to call start of day. We were supposed to start at 5 AM, it actually started at like 3 AM. I posted at like 8 am.

Last game some people didnt post until the afternoon, if i wanted to avoid the beginning of the game i'd just chill till mid-day.

I'll just let my lawyer, JMurder3 handle all my inquiries from here on out as we're asking the same questions/making the same points, and, well, it's his job and I have better **** to do.

Will post pictures of my breakfast

If UFO is a wolf, NGL likely villa

I honestly don't see the logic jump. guy says he didn't make a read of ngl to contradict himself.

yeah.

seems like they can't be ww.

Things I'd rather talk about:

* IRTM's "fine so far" phrasing, seems odd to me anyone want to defend it?
* No lynches posting style. Anyone played with him before, is his lukewarm questioning alignment indicative.
* 3 people havent posted yet: killer_kill, Sun Tzu, t.ossenblok
* Jmurder and myrologue's early interactions. seemed kind of like two wolfbros high fiving to me, cant explain why exactly.

unless jm didn't check his pm. that'd be lame.

for serious?

NGL: I avoided the thread to start the day on purpose
UFO: "NGL is my strongest villager read"
UFO: Holy **** avoiding the thread at SOD on purpose is wolfy AF
Robik: NGL is wolfy for crying about people saying his SOD avoiding the thread is wolfy
UFO: Robik is a wolf for soft pushing obvious villager NGL

want me to answer that?

The thing I don't like about JM3 though is his vote of T.ossenblok, unless that's his fake peek he's leaving, in which case I'm cool with that.

This actually has literally nothing to do with when actual SOD is.

I have better things to be doing too honestly...

Interesting, & not the way I would have parsed that, but the connection between the two can be explored some other time.

I don't think I'm properly understanding this post. Can you elaborate please?

i didn't see the post that ostensibly says the bold. it seems like it's a misunderstanding or a retraction rather than a straight up contradiction atm.

Wolfy post:

To be fair, I don't think the case on UFO is "ZOMG SLAM DUNK" but it's the best thing going for us so far

I don't. several things are wolfy. Do you think not posting on SOD on purpose is wolfy? I think so, and that's why I started questioning NGL. But I don't think being brazen about how you got heat early on as a wolf in your second game is wolfy, and I can understand his concern with posting early on. It's still wolfy not to post on SOD on purpose.

I'd also add that, let's say I'm not making any sense to you and my logic is broken. does that make me more likely a wolf?

well i just read this. so naturally i assumed you were thinking he made a wolf read, and he said he didn't.

it's possible i missed a step in this sequence i guess.

it's been quoted multiple times already. not sure how you've missed it

oh no I made no wolf read on NGL. I don't know this player. I questioned him and soft cleared him. I just told him avoiding posting on purpose is incredibly wolfy.

If you want to. It'd be even better if you talked about whether or not you should answer it, but didnt actually answer anything.

* Seems like fairly standard, if not fully artful language. Just sounds like he has a slight villa lean on you, but it's super early.
* We discussed NL as much as I'm capable of, but also wouldn't mind other opinions on whether there's anything AI in his short stint earlier.
* People not posting is lame, but not sure what specifically to discuss about that.
* I don't recall my interactions with Myro strongly, but that seems like an odd take.

Not really sure what this means. I definitely read my PM, though.

Yeah, I didn't have any strong opinions at the time, & I had accidentally voted for myself, so I just random'd one of the 0 posters. I'm not excited about that vote either, but thought it would be cool if he randomly showed up & we could talk about it.

I'll switch off soon once I figure out how I feel about this last thing.

Not a fake peek. Have already said if I am seer my peek was a villager.

i've a theory, but sometimes being self-aware is considered wolfish. i'm not sure how the thread will take it to be honest, and i'm unsure if it's a good theory. and i wasn't sure if you wanted an explanation or not since it doesn't seem like a big deal.

frankly i'm just interested in the notion that jm and i talking could be thought of as w/w, presuming it was a genuine thought on your part.

anyway, early in the morning i was talking in a very handsoff way, abstract sort of. it doesn't go well with interacting with people. it's just being a peanut gallery commenting or judging others. i used that tone to interact with jm i think which made it awkward.

why am i a wolf for saying that his denial of the wolfiness of missing SOD is wolfy?

Yes, I think anytime someone chooses not to post on purpose, that's wolfy, as posting about the game is pro-village.

Have you read the first page & how this whole conversation started?

As for the last part, it's my natural inclination to think people who are posting things that I find illogical are wolfy, & people who post using thought processes I agree with are villagery.

In this case, it seems to me like you're trying to find an excuse to clear someone when you don't have actual logic to do it, so you're manufacturing something. Buuuut, I'm not sure & you could just be confused, or have good logic that I'm just not quite comprehending yet. Hence the follow up questions.

i totally forgot to take a picture of my breakfast. sorry fam