Villagers
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fixated - very free flowing toan
hardcoreUFO - villagery frustration about previous mislynches, doing work super early on the most interesting thing in the thread so far, i.e bsball
tappakone - pretty good posts and seems to have the WIM. also "given that I don't wolf" is a super retardo thin "he wouldn't say it that way as a wolf" tell.


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bsball
larry legend

also fwiw even with the post restriction you can't be too afraid to post early. It also sucks if the thread is basically dead until an hour before night. It makes it too turbo-y, especially for anyone who can't be around close to EOD, which is probably me, although I didn't check when night is

peeked larry legend- result villagwer

Sup, hoes. Forsythio in da house.

I crafted an opening post in case I was randed wolf. Since I wasn't, I didn't feel obligated to use it, and you now get to read my wonderful off-the-top-of-my-head posting instead.

It's been a while since I played WW, mostly because I got a job, and it takes away a lot of my potential WW time. But I figured since it this is a slow game AND has such a low post restriction, I'd be able to read the whole thread and have time to give 30 postsworth of my thoughts about its happenings as well.

My goals for this game are to improve on a few of my known ww failings:

a) suspect everyone, even people I enjoy chatting with, and therefore am usually less inclined to vote
b) Keep a level head when accused of being a wolf
c) Have confidence in my reads


~~~Reads~~~

HardcoreUFO reads like a villager. Post 29 is villagery outrage. He feels that what he said makes sense, and is upset that bsball went off on him.
Bsball is villagery.

I'm actively trying not to be one of the people that sees a heated argument over something minor and simply writes it off as v/v violence. However, in this instance they do both seem like villagers to me. Both on tone, only bsball on content. HCUFO softpushes someone recently accused and overexplains his reasoning; if his accusation is only "unnatural tone", then the first 8.5 lines of his bsball analysis in post 24 are filler, and don't provide any insight into Bsball's role. I've often seen wolves read other games to try to "find a player's differences in posting style", then come back with statements, but no productive conclusion. I'm giving him a mild villager lean on tone, even though his content says wolf to me.

Tappokone is villagery
BJ's one post was wolfy
I should have an opinion on Henrik, but I don't. A bit villagery I suppose, but he doesn't get a blue name.

I dislike that Larry sponged bsball's vote with the reasoning that bsball is a strong villager in a setting like this. What does that mean? Does bsball have a reputation for being good at post restricted games?

Larry says he is sponging bsball about the McAvoy vote because bsball is a good villager. However, being a good villager or not doesn't relate to one's opinion on whether mac should be instalynched just for being in the game. That's just something you decide for yourself; "Do I want to spoil this person's WW experience forever because I think he is bad at the game?" "Because he is a good villager" and "in a setting like this" are overjustifications, imo. He is trying to make the vote more reasonable-sounding.

I think that Larry is a wolf, and wrote this statement because he thought he as a villager would think it would make sense to sponge bsball there for his (Larry's) given reasons. But as a villager, I say that it isn't.

Lastly, he says he wants to make the game as enjoyable for everyone as possible, but here's the thing: he's voting for someone who hasn't yet posted, sponging the guy who said "this guy is so bad that I never want to be in the same village as him". I don't see how he could have been thinking the blue while doing the red. Therefore, he is lying about his thoughts and intentions, and is a wolf.

Larry Legend

I've read most of Ufo's first game, in which he was a villager, and his start here reminds me of his play in that game. He shows effort, appears anxious to be seen as a villager, and on occasion says things with which I disagree.

For the record, I said it that way before reading my role PM.

Now I'm having a flashback of the last game I played with you, in which you as a wolf game me a very, very soft villager lean early on day one.

Hey guys - I'm relatively new around here, (i usually haunt SE/micro/smalls), and looking to solve my 2nd game! I'll typically play late, and wake up around 1 pmish (now).

Anyways, with post restrictions i can't really afford to just post an intro, so i'll combine my posts.

Makes sense, but a day 1 opening post lynch with no reads???

Explain to me what this means

Reads:
Vill lean:
Henrik Sedin - Trying to solve game

Wolf lean:
Fixated - Post padding

why did i go from this


to not being on this

Because I re-read and decided it was too thin.

meh...its k you'll see soon enough

im sort of expeting d1 and d2 to be a bit of a crapshoot here between not alot to go on and people carefully conserving their posts for no reason

I'm going to have trouble with this post restriction given my penchant for spastically mashing the post quick reply button. I should add:

if you expect me to be super consistent with reads from one list to the next you're going to be disappointed. I'm going to try to make the best reads I possibly can, and I am going to be re-reading and re-evaluating constantly. I will probably appear inconsistent, you're just going to have to deal with it.

I got mislynched like 2 games ago for this (well probably not JUST this, but it seemed to help), I think it was the first game I've been mislynched in a couple of years. I don't know why people think picking out that sort of thing makes anyone more likely to be a wolf, because my experience is it's really the opposite. In any case I will do my best to make my thought processes as obvious as possible but given the post restriction, I'm either going to end up making ridiculously long posts that no one will read to do so, or you'll just have to put up with the fact that sometimes my reads will change for no apparent reason, especially if we're talking about reads that are based on relatively small bits of information, like that one post

Which isn't to say I think you're a wolf, I'm just withholding judgement a little more

oh, I guess I also read forsythio's opener and then went to lunch and forgot about it

I tend to think people overestimate how often wolves actually "lie" directly, especially about certain things, even when no one could possibly find out. Like, wolves will lie about not knowing how many wolves are left, or what a seers peeks were, or stuff like that where there's a direct obvious TMI thing they are worried about or want to level, but I would bet wolf-forsythio is very unlikely to think to lie about having made up an opening post, he'd just post it

I think this is especially true given the fact that he hasn't played recently. That fact makes the idea that he would pre-rehearse what to do as a wolf more believable, and it's far more likely that he did that, then got randed villager, then decided to honestly post that he's not using it, then that he came up with a plan to pretend to have came up with such a post as a wolf

So for all that I think it's fairly likely that forsythio is a villager

It occurs to me though that a huge problem with this format is going to be wolves getting away with heavy commentary mode. The only thing I don't like about forsy's post is that he's giving a read on something that others have discussed (larry, bsball) but not replying to or interacting with any of the previous posts. It's purely an independent commentary. That doesn't make him a wolf, but a lot of wolves have an easier time doing commentary then really being present and arguing, so those of us who are villagers should try to have conversations, not just periodic updates, to avoid making it too easy for them to blend in

Just a thought

It seems that this isn't the ideal game to be making phone posts during my breaks... although lol @ me hitting post restriction

Awesome lineup hai guise!

Bk2 or w/e caught my eye with his early "lettuce go" post. It seems like fake enthusiasm esp. considering his posting afterwards

Wanna clear WN which make me feel silly since he's made 3 posts and I have a never clear WN rule, but still... pretty villagery

I didn't feel like reading long posts on phone, will get to them later

BJnylk

it seems to me rather that given how low volume it is it's really the ideal game for doing some on break phone posting

or at least being busy isn't as much of an impediment to playing this game then it is the 1500 ppd monstrosities.

Yeah. There's a similar mismatch between stated attitude and (lack of) activity here: