ok but this game is 11 people who have played with each other probably 1000x and 2 noobs, and the people you're calling out here are the 2 noobs. It's actually fine for me to just like and agree with what someone else is doing. It's probably more productive than me trying to come up with my own bs.

so there's an organic read. btw just cause I sheeped a vote doesn't mean I'm not organically coming up with reads that's bs.

Took a walk with the dog and feel better. Sorry for my outburst, I know it wasn't cool. I was feeling frustrated and I didn't like monte calling me ridiculously stupid. But I'm over it, so let's ww.

I'm not surprised to vacate the thread for 45minutes, come back to see I'm still lead wagon, and yet another person has jumped on it.

People have stopped interacting, people have stopped posting their thoughts, and nobody seems to be actually looking for wolves anymore.

Seems like wolves were driving the action and now that we have a lead wagon their work is done.

I'm not just calling out you guys, pretty sure i said toast was wolfy too. And it's no surprise that the people i have the least experience with are the ones I find pretty wolfy.

Not to mention it's somewhat suspicious you come and jump on my wagon, when I'm voting you, after it has already gained momentum.

So who are the wolves driving the action IYO?
Look at your wagon and those you think should be stopping the push on you? Any one in particular you think has avoided the situation.

FWIW: Monte IMO never called you ridiculously stupid he said you possibly made a bad defense and then had to defend a ridiculously stupid position. That in no way is a personal attack on you and does not even imply you are stupid whatsoever.
Think you read too much into that

Is it? Or would voting after the momentum make my vote more scrutinized?

I don't think housenuts' nor sugabat's vote on me is really very legit. Housenuts gave some BS about me making thin cases, when he has jumped from vote to vote. Sugabat comes in after the fact and finally gets to "safely" vote for the guy who is pushing him.

I still don't like NGL's reaction to irtm's post about using powerups, it felt forced. And again the eager beaver play to be here at 5am.

I don't think you've accurately represented my voting for irtm, which could be suspicious to me. But then again you're the only one looking to ask me questions here, which is pro-village to avoid a mislynch.

I don't think I understand the bolded, can you clarify.

As for the third question, most people not on my wagon have ignored the situation. Some have been advocating shooting me, but aren't voting for me, which seems not pro-village on d1 given the accuracy of a d1 vig shot. Many others just haven't been around.

You're actually voting with the momentum, imo

but others may view it differently

Donatello

I'd never view votes on me as illegitimate. No matter the reason they're voting you, it's the same result in the end.

I'm not sure I understand, can you clarify for me please?

As I understand it, If people vote with momentum or what is currently convenient, it seems fair to doubt their motives, and that it could mean they're a piling on wolf.

I was just trying to gauge your opinion on every one in general I meant was there anybody you felt is quiet on the subject that you would have expected to know better.

So what have I don't that is so wolfy that I haven't adequately explained? Because I've explained everything I've done so far.

People keep talking to me, it's the only way you're going to see that I'm a villa. Or you can kill me and certainly see it after I flip.

I'll give you an example Donnie I think Monte switching off of you when he did was quite villagery for him.

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	Donat3llo	AllInBluff (25), NotGonnaLie (28), housenuts (24), sugabat (27), BenjaminAO (18)
2	ihcjay	ChrisV (9), iraisetoomuch (54)
1	sugabat	Donat3llo (82)
1	NotGonnaLie	Montecore (51)
3	not voting	NeedMoreManasi (20), Reaperlicious (3), xander biscuits (25)
1	Error	ihcjay (55)

I would expect irtm to know I'm villa at this point, but he has already said he is terribad at reading me. Despite our numerous games together.

I would expect monte to read me as villa here, given he has wolfed with me, villa'd with me, and villa'd while I wolfed. I would expect him to read me better.

I would expect xander to be able to read my villa game as well, but he isn't around.

After quite a few one day games, I would hope housenuts would be able to see my village game a little better. Like, if I'm wolfing then this is far from the wolf game I recently played.

And ultimately I just don't think the case against me is very strong. Especially not compared to some of the cases laid out against others. I obviously didn't forget my peek, I still put them in my villager list. Perhaps the reasoning I didn't put them #1 isn't 100% sound, but im not perfect and I can admit that.

I've wolfed with manasi like a million times, I would definitely expect her to be able to read my wolf and villa game. All she has said is "lol, I read donnie villa guys", which leaves me wanting.

I've also wolfed with ChrisV and expect him to be able to read this as not my wolf game when he gets itt. He even agreed with one of my reads on NGL.

Toast should also know something about my wolf and villa game as I've one-day ww'd a bunch with them also. Notice how they are sticking with manasi.

BenAO and I had a rough game together the last time we played(not really his fault), but I tend to think they have too much pride in their ww game to wolf read me out of spite as a villa.

Reaper hasn't been itt much so no idea there.

I'm home from work.

I don't feel like catching up.

Someone hold my hand.

I very much agree with this, he seemed to make two assertions for my wolfiness and then immediately switched. Maybe he is really a softy, who knows.

Monte will likely either get capped by wolves as a NK or killed by villagers via a powerup if he is still alive tomorrow or the next, so I'm not too worried about them.

Why would I get killed by villagers tomorrow?

Half way rule I would imagine with a dose of paranoia.
Unvote

Bc the Lord has decided it's your time to die, grandpa.

People that have played with Donatello frequently, is his little emotional tirade alignment indicative?

Donnie, vote NGL with me

Also does he always post read lists with a whole bunch of strong town reads and strong wolf reads day 1?

Previously it's been villa sided.
But he's smart to enough to switch up his game and could use it as a wolf.

He just hasn't in the past that I've seen.