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Old 06-17-2012, 02:48 PM   #4381
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Re: 6/11 Vanilla WW - Novaya Zemlaya

this is my least quotable game ever, those posts make me want to vomit aids all over the place
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:50 PM   #4382
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this is my least quotable game ever, those posts make me want to vomit aids all over the place
cross fwiw you guys' mad and butthurt this game is infectious

i was treating it like a normal game but now im really hating it the past few days
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:51 PM   #4383
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aids is incurable :/
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Re: 6/11 Vanilla WW - Novaya Zemlaya

that being said i feel like im ready to clear you
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:54 PM   #4385
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Re: 6/11 Vanilla WW - Novaya Zemlaya

so we still dont understand the teddy nk do we?

who even introduced the idea that scoot was so obv seer and the teddy NK msut be fps?
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so we still dont understand the teddy nk do we?

who even introduced the idea that scoot was so obv seer and the teddy NK msut be fps?
i thought the way scoot defended WN the first few days i thought his peek was WN V and sun V

even if the wolves didnt think WN was V (VMF=V was laid out in a fairly innocent but definitive way. i missed it first time i read) the sun modkill kinda gave him a freeroll incentive to fps IMO

do you agree or disagree
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I think a player of anarchist's personalities would always include a real wolf in these "lolantispew", just like the rule of wolves always including a wolf in a read of x/y/wolf

An example of this is in the detective conan game where I wolfed with crmmarty. he was getting heat and when he knew the ship was going down he tried to pull that crap(which i wasnt too happy about obv). click through for the posts

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which makes me think UAW is more likely to be a wolf. I know it's thin and it's hard to explain the intuition behind it but it's a gut feeling and I have other reasons that make me believe UAW is a wolf and it's coming
here's another piece of me wrt to uaw

if i was a wolf and wanted to vote uaw to bus why would i pull out this sort of thin **** from another game rather than make a full case

pretty humorous i actually got that right in hindsight actually
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:02 PM   #4388
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i thought the way scoot defended WN the first few days i thought his peek was WN V and sun V

even if the wolves didnt think WN was V (VMF=V was laid out in a fairly innocent but definitive way. i missed it first time i read) the sun modkill kinda gave him a freeroll incentive to fps IMO

do you agree or disagree
who is 'him'?
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So here's the eod where Scootaloo soft claimed and hard-defended Sun.

I think Aksdal looks good from this exchange and Noah looks not so good, especially since he was hardcore sponging Scootaloo the majority of the game, yet here he suddenly disregards Scoot very adamantly defending a player. I don't think that makes a ton of sense, but I think Noah has made some explanation posts on the matter that I've missed so Noah if you want to address that again, that'd be great. Aksdal's explanation of what he was doing at eod that day makes much more sense IMO.

Another thing I think is interesting is FN's post that I've quoted. The 'wolves outing themselves left and right' is something I've seen said more often by wolves than villagers under pressure, but obv could still be said by a villager. What I think is interesting is he lists vyk, teddy, and scoot as villager and vmf and wellnamed as wolves.

I have a ridiculously tinfoily theory but I'm just gonna throw it out there-

Vyk was super pissed at Annie for throwing him under the bus the last time they wolfed together. It's possible that if the teddy NK was fpsed, it was to clear wolfVyk, possibly in a semi-conciliatory act by wolfAnnie. This would be further indiciated if FN is also a wolf possibly via the post above I quoted of his. We know 2/3 villagers he listed are confirmed villa, and the 2 wolves he listed are also confirmed villa and FN made that list before the teddy NK. I think Vyk could be a wolf with FN.

That looks even crazier now that I typed it out but **** it.
supppperrrr villagery thought process and desire to solve game.

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so I guess I am officially changing my read on FN

I still have to reread slighted and uaw, which i may not do immediately
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Re: 6/11 Vanilla WW - Novaya Zemlaya

EOD 2. starting 3 hours before EOD.. with a DNKY wagon
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Votes as of post 2020
Night in 03:01

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VotesLynchVoters
4 dnkyhunter31 Anarchist (33), FN2339 (28), VarianceMinefield (34), well named (71)
2 well named teddyyyr1974 (51), vyk07 (42)
1 Aksdal dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (40)
1 Sun Tzu Judge_Judy (79)
1 UAW710 Noah (113)
1 VarianceMinefield Aksdal (51)
1 vyk07 Scootaloo (56)
3 not voting Slighted (2), Sun Tzu (0), UAW710 (0)
Dnky wagon has 1 wolf, 2 villagers, and FN on it.
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i love these wagons
dnky/well named is 1+ wolves
does annie include a wolf here in this statement? Also annie parks this vote here early and leaves it on dnky through the EOD, possibly trying to avoid getting caught between voting v/v wagons…
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Annie can you talk about my role pla?
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aksdal, what? i think you're a villager, and i read you super well imo
I think this is villagery for Aksdal, seems really awkward to try and do those comments as w/w.
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Well since we're all wearing I don't think FN wrote that last multi-quote by himself.
Interesting thought from a confirmed villa.
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damn, im leaving in 15 minutes and wont be here for eod. dnky is still by far the best lynch unless someone can come up with good reasons for a different wagon
This is where annie leaves. Hedges on the dnky wagon which seems w/w-ish
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wellnamed
Start of the WN wagon.
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Again multiple times you've asked questions or said things that appear just to be something to say or ask.. just skipped over this..
Well named
My vote on WN after he wasn’t answering questions/commentin on the thread.
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sun tzu
Start of the sun wagon.
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because I think he's a wolf like i've been saying all day
Aksdal pushing sun.
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Hi, we're not lynching Sun Tzu.
Soft claim.
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Votes as of post 2233
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3 dnkyhunter31 Anarchist (43), FN2339 (36), well named (89)
3 Sun Tzu Aksdal (70), Judge_Judy (79), VarianceMinefield (54)
3 well named Slighted (15), teddyyyr1974 (73), vyk07 (55)
2 Aksdal Scootaloo (82), dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 FN2339 Noah (147)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (47)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)
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suntzu
I am ok with sun or WN as of right now.
I still think dnky is a villager
Villa pushing sun/wn over dnky
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What's wolfy about sun tzu?
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not trying to find wolves?
Aksdal soft pushing sun some more
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what makes you say that?
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this hardcore guy getting another pass today?
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hardcore/sun/wellnamed
but not polarized at all, just a random grouping
could be like uhhh scoot/variance/x or somethng weird
just throwing names together really
vyk pushing ALL villagers, either very poorly played or a wolf trying to hedge one everyone.
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vyk
do you think it looks like a sun lynch is going to happen
like ppl expect it to happen?
oddly phrased question, not sure what the agenda is here, so im torn on whether to think this is wolfy or villagery of aksdal..
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actually after a dnky reread i really think dnky may be just a come@mebro type villla
FN goes back on dnky, says he is a villager..

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Votes as of post 2294
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VotesLynchVoters
4 Sun Tzu Aksdal (82), Judge_Judy (79), teddyyyr1974 (79), VarianceMinefield (60)
3 dnkyhunter31 Anarchist (43), FN2339 (38), well named (89)
2 Aksdal Scootaloo (89), dnkyhunter31 (15)
2 well named Slighted (16), vyk07 (66)
1 FN2339 Noah (156)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (53)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)

:00 good :01 bad
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wtf is this, some sort of dynamic read?
couldn't be
this is about fn’s dnky read change.. this is odd from vyk. Is his motivation here to go at FN for the read? Or dnky’s a wolf here? Because after tonights night kill he is very assertive that dnky is a villager do to SHC with himself.
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dnky
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I'm not letting Sun go down.
Protecting his peek.
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well named
Finally getting off dnky, who he said was a villager..
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Sun
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like if sun is a villa
hardcore
fn
JJ
kinda works
Do you still believe any of this Aksdal? What are your reads on those two alive now?

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You think dnky is more likely to be a wolf than sun?
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judgejudy
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your treachery will not go unpunished
For voting dnky? What does this mean? Is vyk thinking teddy is the seer here and protecting dnky?

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Yes. Guaranteed.
Soft claim again..
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Votes as of post 2314
Night in 00:10

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VotesLynchVoters
4 Sun Tzu Judge_Judy (79), Noah (159), teddyyyr1974 (79), VarianceMinefield (62)
3 dnkyhunter31 Scootaloo (94), Anarchist (43), well named (89)
3 well named FN2339 (40), Slighted (16), vyk07 (69)
1 Aksdal dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 Judge_Judy Aksdal (86)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (53)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)

:00 good :01 bad
Wagons… 3 villagers, 1 unkown… 2 villagers 1 wolf… 3 unkown
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fn2339
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wellnamed
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lets lynch fn2339
he has felt off all game
confirmed villa statement and vote on FN

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FN
Aksdal quickly follows..
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Votes as of post 2330
Night in 00:06

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VotesLynchVoters
4 well named FN2339 (40), Slighted (17), teddyyyr1974 (80), vyk07 (71)
3 dnkyhunter31 Scootaloo (95), Anarchist (43), well named (89)
2 FN2339 Aksdal (90), VarianceMinefield (64)
2 Sun Tzu Judge_Judy (79), Noah (162)
1 Aksdal dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (54)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)

:00 good :01 bad
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overly jokey
Aksdal answers someone elses question about FN. Wants to push the wagon..
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Finally, a wagon I feel good about
FN
Noah thinks fn is wolfy.
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i've maintained that i thought WN to be wolfy cause he really reminds me of the sideline facilitator/commentator/wishy washyness that i saw him pull off during that epic win@Poker game
sun tzu i have little opinion on other than the fact that he's being fickle as anyone would expect him to be
dnky I think is just one of those ego driven come@mebro person and I do not think that he would expose himself and draw that much attention to himself when he repeatedly asked for a tdome vs aksdal even vs thread consensus that aksdal is a good villager and should be elft alone.
fn says dnky villager, what has changed fn’s read now..
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FN
Hops on the growing wagon in the sweet spot for wolves…
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Votes as of post 2345
Night in 00:03

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VotesLynchVoters
4 FN2339 Aksdal (93), Noah (163), VarianceMinefield (67), vyk07 (72)
3 dnkyhunter31 Scootaloo (97), Anarchist (43), well named (90)
3 well named FN2339 (41), Slighted (18), teddyyyr1974 (80)
1 Aksdal dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (54)
1 Sun Tzu Judge_Judy (79)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)

:00 good :01 bad
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FN
ok
self pres 5th vote on FN
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Votes as of post 2352
Night in 00:01

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VotesLynchVoters
5 FN2339 Aksdal (94), Noah (163), VarianceMinefield (67), vyk07 (73), well named (93)
3 well named FN2339 (41), Slighted (18), teddyyyr1974 (81)
2 dnkyhunter31 Scootaloo (97), Anarchist (43)
1 Aksdal dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (54)
1 Sun Tzu Judge_Judy (79)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)

:00 good :01 bad
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lolthis is cute wolves outing themselves left n right to come @ me.
vyk teddy scoot villa
vmf/wn maybe wolf
this is the post that caused people to leave the FN wagon.. teddy/scoot vila vmf/wn villa.. do you still believe vyk is villa?

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sponging
FN
6th vote on FN
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im sure tons of info can be extracted from this cfd so GL villa
Another eod post.
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ugh

sun
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Starts the exodus

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dnkyhunter
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well named
Ends with WN lynched..
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Final Vote Count
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VotesLynchVoters
4 well named FN2339 (43), Slighted (18), teddyyyr1974 (81), VarianceMinefield (70)
3 FN2339 Scootaloo (98), Aksdal (94), vyk07 (73)
2 dnkyhunter31 Anarchist (43), well named (95)
2 Sun Tzu Judge_Judy (79), Noah (165)
1 Aksdal dnkyhunter31 (15)
1 Scootaloo hardcoreUFO (54)
2 not voting Sun Tzu (14), UAW710 (9)


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cliffs-

Aksdal- Less villagery than eod1 overall, but easier to read motivations. good interaction with annie. pushed his wolf read Sun until nofear softclaimed, pushed FN to the point where he was answering questions that werent asked of him to justify the push. really weird question to vyk, seemed like he struggled with the format to ask it, which is slightly wolfy.. had a wolf team of hardcore/fn/jj... are any of those still wolf leans aksdal?? slight villa eod.

DNKY- largely uninvolved and wagoned ALL day.. seemed to lay low or generally not be around while getting heat, majorly wolfy. Also annie had some wolfy comments regarding DNKY, and its not a stretch to believe that Annie decided to bus to victory on both day1 and day2.. wolfy overall

FN-changed his read 180 degrees during the day, which is vilagery in my opinion.. waited to get on a WN wagon, which seemed wolfy at the time nofear was soft claiming for the lead wagon, and a wolf FN would see that and have to pick wn or aksdal, not sure on his previous reads but i will give him the benefit of the doubt for right now for having WN as a wolf read..
fn did a good job of dumping the pressure off his wagon. he said wolves outting themselves left and right.. but only named 2 out of the 5-6 on his wagon... overall slight villager lean for the read change and pushing his second wolf lean after changing the read.

Vyk- again a wolfy EOD in my opinion. he picked 5 people to be on wolf teams, and hit all villagers(is it extremely poor play or wolfiness), he also was very skeptical of FN's read switch, but seemed to have no wolf lean on dnky nor FN, and later seemed to be protecting dnky so why would he react that way to FN saying dnky was a villager. He then jumps on fn in a very wolfy spot in wagon generation..

JJ- Largely uninvolved again in EOD2. does anyone have recent xnerd wolf games, to see if this univnolved style is wolfy for her? I understand possible timezone/sleep patterns, but i've seen aussie's and night workers put in better effort/involvement in games... WTF lean again...
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who is 'him'?
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still the SHC seem to be far and above the wolfiest people in the game..
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also sorry about the delay in that multiquote.. woke up kinda late, also trying to shove 2 days worth of stuff i said i would do around the house into 1 morning before my fiance gets home later today... hehe.
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ok so after reading today, i found litterally nothing of help. alot of butthurt, but not much other than that.

i will say that, as if there were any doubts before, judy/noah are never w/w here.

im gonna go back to d2 and look at the voting at EOD to see if there is anything in the hard data.
hurpdurp

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some small things:

d1, anacrist was on sooted most of EOD. the wolves were in insta-bus mode.

d2, noah moved from sun, to FN when his wagon heated up, and then back to sun, where his vote was likely not going to mean anything. that plus his d1, i dont like.

until we find out FNs role, that hard data is not going to reveal much.

today, as long as we have the ability from the modkill, we have to NO LYNCH

if we have to lynch today:
noah
FN
aks

in that order.

and before anyone asks, yes, i still have a aks wolf lean, and i dont see it going away. but we need to get more info before that is done, imo.
this is so unbelievably backwards i dont even know what to think about it. no mention of uaw. twtbaw?
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i have been generally MIA, so its role neutral, based on the player. in the past when ive played with uaw, he was very MIA during the game. i dont feel post count is normally a good barometer on role.
softdefending UAW ilke a champ

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yea, you were voting well named all EOD, then switched to XXs, and then to ana right at the end.

tinfoil hat, but were you trying to vote two wolves at EOD for some claiming rights later in the game?
the bolded bothers me. people usually tinfoil ridiculous accusations. the tone that he takes with the new player and ending it like a question is very very awkward
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