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Old 04-23-2012, 09:26 PM   #136
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

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yes

I'm pretty sure you're a villager and I promise I'm one too
sun seems very likely a villager(crazy to say on day 1)

but snap promising her is something i dont think he would do as a wolf

unless they are both wolves

but she seems villa enough
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:28 PM   #137
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Damn this is what I get for actually doing some work. Pretty sure that is right.

Sparky, if you dont want to out yourself I am a ok with that. I vote for gimmick stay gimmick, dont feel pressured to out yourself by Mets.

Binks, I am villa, and if you prove to be as well we should be good, slow game format is good for my schedule.


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Good day fellas. This is my second ww game, first one was the wire. I believe a few of you were in that one, namely binkles, VMF and Annie. Ready to hunt wolves again!
Heya Timon, I'd forgotten that you were in the Wire game. I might take a look at it a bit later. How would you describe the way you approach ww right now?

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Are you genuinely surprised? If so, how come?
Sort of, I suppose. Like, I thought Mets had enough respect for my game to be a day 1 pass, but I've never been a day 1 pass of his before, so in the end I don't really mind.

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Sun being overly amicable is wolfy

I think
Meh, I don't agree.

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Sigh.

I have been looking forward to this game ALOT!. I am coming of a very enjoyable game where the entire villa created a climate where wolfs had a hard time to hide(my take on it).

It was such a fun game to play that I planned on making some post where I would encourage that sort of humbleness and open minded play.

But then I see Mets list of day passes and I get pissy right of the bat. I think its an anti villa approach to the game.

I dont think Mets is wolfy. Unvote.






I have played a few, maybee 6-7 long games.

I played villa under the gimmick Hannnah in this gimmick game

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...-life-1194070/

Before that I wolfed in a none turbo 9er
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...hread-1191024/

I see myself as a pretty good "feel" player with a subpar understanding of the mechanical aspect.

Regarding your first couple of posts I must say I am very pleased with your tone, as I viewed you as a kind of utr ww rockstar.
I dont know if it relates to your role yet but I like what I see.





Thanks for leaving me out.

In return I want you to know that I actually find your first post wolfy.
Sorry for leaving you out Birdie, it was completely by accident, you crushed as Hannah

I think this post is pretty damn villagery.

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well hello there everyone, I was at the doctors office when i got the nod to sub in so i didnt get to post right away. i've learned that if the doc straight tells you something is going to hurt a lot, then they are generally being truthful, and possibly even underplaying it..


so to get this straight we have 50 posts each from now until tuesday at 10pm? then rinse and repeat until thursday night? i have never read or played a slowgame, so i apologize for the dumb question. i'm excited to play with this lineup(go game C village), although i am sad that mets dropped out.
Hmm

I kinda expected you to mention how you were 'randed villa AGAIN' as a villager here. It is somewhat conspicuous by its absense.

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hello all.
4th game as a villager hopefully i have a good wolf list day two in this game also.

but for the moment slighted [was mets] is a villager.

binkles are you a wolf in this game?

[just posting before i head to work. most of my posts will be 9hrs from now+ unless i have a game friendly time at work ]
Hey bro, nice to see you again

I am not a wolf this game.

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I expect you to have had more to say there if you are a villager. I don't ever recall you entering a thread like that. You usually enter the thread and make a series of posts over 15-30 minutes giving all your thoughts and the two posts you made seemed more in line with what I associate your awkward wolf game.
Hmm, I initially agreed with VMF's take on the you/UAW thing, but I can somewhat see where you're coming from now (in terms of him grunch voting in the last game, and not doing so here).

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Going back through the thread I remembered that this kind of jumped out at me earlier. It seems odd that in a game with a 2 day Day 1 and a post limit, someone would compose their post ahead of time.

I also think doing so is anti-village: intentionally posting without knowing your role only helps you if you are a wolf.
I agree that it's anti-village, which is funny because he's only ever been randed villager I believe. He has definitely pre-written his OPs in prior games though, so I don't think it ought to be a discussion point.

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Some random thoughts:

- I think VMF has been very villagery coming into this game, I like the way he's posting and the things he's looking into

- Aksdal has come in sorta wolfy. He's had a few villagery posts sprinkled in there, but there are quite a few things that I haven't really liked from him.

- Anarchist quite likely a villager

- Tappokone somewhat wolfy, in his read of the thread I feel like the things he was pointing out or responding to weren't quite in line with what I expect a villager to point out/respond to. However that should be tempered with the knowledge that afaik I've never played with Tappo, only modded a game with him in it (and sorta read one or two others).
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:29 PM   #138
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

that piost by binkles is villagery. real good tone
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:31 PM   #139
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

Hiya VR, it's nice to see you here

Do you think you could tell me a little bit about how you perceive your own game? What do you think your strengths/weaknesses are as a villager and as a wolf? How would you go about wolfhunting yourself?

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Old 04-23-2012, 09:32 PM   #140
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that piost by binkles is villagery. real good tone
Looking at the timestamps, you must have read it really quickly
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:33 PM   #141
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yes

I'm pretty sure you're a villager and I promise I'm one too
This makes me .

But I only have 50 posts so I'd better not get too chatty.

Binkles, I am curious about the origin of your villager lean on Anarchist.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:36 PM   #142
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

Villagers
J.D.
Captain Binkles(not wishy washy)

Sun Tzu
VoraciousReader

Anarchist(mellowed out villa)
Aksdal(wolf hunting)
UAW710(good content in his posts. seems like his villa game)
Fixated(tone seems legit)
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:40 PM   #143
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Hiya VR, it's nice to see you here

Do you think you could tell me a little bit about how you perceive your own game? What do you think your strengths/weaknesses are as a villager and as a wolf? How would you go about wolfhunting yourself?

Thanks
My strength as a villager is self-clearing. New people often find me wolfy in the first day or two, but people that have played with me generally read me pretty well, and even the new people can usually clear me after a couple of days. As long as I don't get lynched early, I tend to live a while. I make it a point to post straightforwardly. I believe that deception is the enemy of the village.

I am a moderately below average wolf hunter, and I tend to use tone quite a bit early in the game. Later my preferred method of wolf-hunting is to reread the entire thread with full knowledge of dead players' roles. In a lot of POG games that is simply not possible, ,and my reads suffer quite a bit, but I expect I will be able to do a bit better in this game.

I am not a good wolf. When I played regularly, I was often the first wolf lynched, but I was also often the one that found the seer.

People often think that I'm grouchy as a wolf, but that is generally a misread. If I'm grouchy in game it usually means one of two things: too many villagers getting too fps-y, or outside of game life circumstances.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:43 PM   #144
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

i like your style vr. tone seems real villa as well. i feel good trusting u and sun
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:45 PM   #145
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Looking at the timestamps, you must have read it really quickly
nice, i guess i am pretty good at reading
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:51 PM   #146
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

w/e i can't read sun anyway
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:55 PM   #147
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This makes me .

But I only have 50 posts so I'd better not get too chatty.

Binkles, I am curious about the origin of your villager lean on Anarchist.
It's, as the cool kids would say, a bit of a tone thing.

Annie hasn't really been 'spamarchist' too much in any role recently, so post count alone (or lack of) isn't a good reason to find him villagery or wolfy. However I believe that the way in which he posts, and the content/underlying tone of his posts have some noticeable differences when looking between his villa and his wolf game.

I think as a wolf he is generally more aggressive, he doesn't become super-aggro too often, but there's something there that's a little bit more...'definitive' I suppose. I'm struggling to find the correct adjective here, but there's definitely a difference. As a villager I think his tone is a bit quieter, more resigned, etc. He'll still make reads and interact, but I can normally see at least a few of his posts and think to myself "I don't think Annie wolf makes that post in that way" when he's a villager. I think a few of his posts have been like that already.

In terms of the accuracy of my read, I've managed to read him pretty accurately recently, I don't think I've been wrong on him in a while. However I will temper that by adding that I've explained my confidence in reading Anarchist in the past, so he's probably at least somewhat aware of the way in which I read him, and it may be something he tries to focus upon the next time he's randed wolf against me.

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Villagers
J.D.
Captain Binkles(not wishy washy)

Sun Tzu
VoraciousReader

Anarchist(mellowed out villa)
Aksdal(wolf hunting)
UAW710(good content in his posts. seems like his villa game)
Fixated(tone seems legit)
I quite like a lot of this list.

I think I disagree with you on Aksdal right now, there's just something there that I think is more of a hallmark of his wolf game than villa, but I need to wait and see more from him.

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My strength as a villager is self-clearing. New people often find me wolfy in the first day or two, but people that have played with me generally read me pretty well, and even the new people can usually clear me after a couple of days. As long as I don't get lynched early, I tend to live a while. I make it a point to post straightforwardly. I believe that deception is the enemy of the village.

I am a moderately below average wolf hunter, and I tend to use tone quite a bit early in the game. Later my preferred method of wolf-hunting is to reread the entire thread with full knowledge of dead players' roles. In a lot of POG games that is simply not possible, ,and my reads suffer quite a bit, but I expect I will be able to do a bit better in this game.

I am not a good wolf. When I played regularly, I was often the first wolf lynched, but I was also often the one that found the seer.

People often think that I'm grouchy as a wolf, but that is generally a misread. If I'm grouchy in game it usually means one of two things: too many villagers getting too fps-y, or outside of game life circumstances.
Thanks very much for the response VR. I'm actually a big fan of tone reading in general, it's something I've been trying to add to my game recently. When I first joined POG I was a lot more analytical than I am now, whereas recently I've tried to add more thin reads into my arsenal, and be able to build a view on the game around that.

I'll keep in mind that your mood is most likely role-neutral/based on out of game stuff.

One thing I remember was a recent turbo I railed, where you were a wolf, and I think quite a few of the old timers were impressed by how well you played (Dean I think?). Did you make any conscious adjustments there to 'fool' him or the thread in general, or do you think it was more just a case of him being 'rusty' or something?
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:57 PM   #148
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

Do you have a read on VMF yet Aksdal?
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Do you have a read on VMF yet Aksdal?
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:04 PM   #150
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Re: 4/23 Vanilla Slow Game (PoR) -- The Night Watch

I didn't consciously adjust anything, but I do have a theory.

One thing that often would trip me up as a wolf was the sense of responsibility to my teammates. That, combined with the fact that I frequently get read easily would make me nervous to post and let my wolf-mates down, and it showed in my posting.

I have been consciously making an effort to take things less seriously (in my daily life, not just ww) in the last 6 months. Not that I still don't want to play to win, but I'm working on realizing that it's not the end of the world if I screw up and just enjoying the moment while I'm in it. For a recovering perfectionist like myself, that's an ongoing challenge.

So maybe my wolf game just came off a little more Zen.
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