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pavel i like you, we are on the same page here. and on the same page about the mathematically >rand line as well.

let me also throw this into the mix:

-they both posted 1 MINUTE after the thread opened.
-wolves only have night chat.

the wolves had to stop talking to each other once the thread opened, therefore the fact that someone posted immediately is >rand that they are a wolf

faulty logic or...?

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04-16-2012 , 09:50 AM

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ascetic acid

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Originally Posted by Pavel Datsyuk

this is a wolf claim right?

most likely

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actually, I think it is quite possible that both atakpup and ascetic acid are wolves.

it's not, ducy?

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04-16-2012 , 09:53 AM

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Mary Sue

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Originally Posted by ascetic acid

most likely

um.......you agreed with it when it was posted, even though it makes absolutely no sense.

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04-16-2012 , 09:57 AM

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Pavel Datsyuk

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Originally Posted by Mary Sue

no, the logic seems fine. Also, the thread opened at a time that POG as a whole is very inactive. It would not surprise me if they had a heads up from the mod in wolfchat. I really dont think villas would be here f5ing at 5:45 server time.

why did you give ascetic acid a villa lean though?

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04-16-2012 , 09:58 AM

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um.......you agreed with it when it was posted, even though it makes absolutely no sense.

I actually just realised now that it didnt. At the time I figured rand = 50/50, making it correct. The thing that bothered me is that his statement was general (regardless of it being right or wrong) and did not answer my question

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04-16-2012 , 10:01 AM

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tone read

and was also trying to see if i could get pup to react a bit to my vote before i talked about the "mathmatically >rand" line and the interaction.

the timing tell dawned on me when you suggested that they could both be wolves

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04-16-2012 , 10:04 AM

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all that f5ing then lags between the responses to each other. its not right. if youre that ready to post I would have expected at 50 post back and forth between the two of them as villas. also, its not like nofear was posting OPs back to back for 15 min prior. The thread opened without warning.

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04-16-2012 , 10:06 AM

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I dont plan to read the other 2 threads at all so any discussion of them will be lost on me.

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04-16-2012 , 10:12 AM

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I think the "rand to be villager" is an innocent mistake. The rest of the conversation should incriminate atakpup.
I'm not a wolf and I won't let you guys spoil this potentially great moment of me catching a wolf 45 minutes into d1.
Villagelean on Pavel for his entry though

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04-16-2012 , 10:14 AM

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ascetic acid, how do you explain the delayed interactions at the beginning of day as well as your instant appearance itt?

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04-16-2012 , 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ascetic acid

it could be innocent, except for the fact that it doesn't make any sense for a villager to type it in the first place (let alone be wrong about it).

also...you seem a hair too confident in your assessment of atakpup as a wolf.

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04-16-2012 , 10:18 AM

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i'm here and i'm a villager.

villa lean on ascetic & wolf lean already on atakpup

I agree with Mary and Pavel, the >rand line struck me as weird.
atakpups first few posts were really meh although im not sure its likely both atakpup and ascetic are wolves.
5:45 servertime also means that its noon in europe.

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04-16-2012 , 10:26 AM

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I am aware that it is a normal time to be awake in Europe, but that doesnt make it any odder that they were seemingly f5ing pog at a time that is usually super dead.

the fact that they both did it RIGHT at the open is definitely not random. these two were almost certainly talking to each other and the mod (who would be in wolfchat) when the thread opened.

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04-16-2012 , 10:29 AM

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ascetic acid, how do you explain the delayed interactions at the beginning of day as well as your instant appearance itt?

Thread opened 15 min earlier then actually schedueled but I was around reading other stuff so I was first. Regarding delayed interactions, my posting is a bit slower then usual since I am trying to honor the aspect of the game and eliminate personal touches.. and sometimes i'm just doing other stuff instead of F5'ing waiting for other people to post

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I agree that it doesnt make sense for a villager to type it, but it it indeed innocent (at least imo). Let me give you an example;
I will give you 1K$ if you can correctly guess the role of someone who hasnt posted itt yet. I bet you'll say he's a villager, yes? cuz he's > rand to be villager

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04-16-2012 , 10:30 AM

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wolf tone read on godkata

first post = a total sponge of me and pavel, two villas imo. also comes to soft defense of two suspect players, without making any reads of his own.

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04-16-2012 , 10:30 AM

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Votes as of post 41
Night in 10:30
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	Atakpup	Mary Sue (8), Pavel Datsyuk (8)
11	not voting	Ascetic acid (13), Atakpride (0), Atakpup (6), Billy goat gruff (0), Early and often (0), Ellinika se mena (0), Godkata (1), Quoth (0), Shiitake (0), Thaxll'ssillyia (0), Your mother (0)

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04-16-2012 , 10:33 AM

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We (and by "we" I mean "you guys") shouldn't talk about the mod announcing in wolfchat, timezones or other stuff that can be considered angleshooting and/or hint your country.

Sry I forgot to answer something; I'm not a hair too confident that atakpup is a wolf. I haven't even voted him yet. My aim was to put him in an akward situation to see what happend. Something happend, he was being wolfy.
I'm confident that this is the most information that has ever been gained in less then 50 posts

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04-16-2012 , 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary Sue

wolf tone read on godkata

first post = a total sponge of me and pavel, two villas imo. also comes to soft defense of two suspect players, without making any reads of his own.

your timeline is wrong. I still like you, though

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04-16-2012 , 10:36 AM

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Quoth all up in this hizzie

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04-16-2012 , 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary Sue

wolf tone read on godkata

first post = a total sponge of me and pavel, two villas imo. also comes to soft defense of two suspect players, without making any reads of his own.

We're 40 posts into the game, there isnt much to talk about yet so sponging is likely.

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I hadn't checked the timestamps but you're right, both of them posting 1 minute after the thread opens is suspect.
It doesnt make them w/w and im not sure it makes it "almost certain" they were talking to each other but its suspect.

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04-16-2012 , 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mary Sue

maybe so ascetic. need more people posting imho, so i can assign more reads.

if you are arriving into this thread and you are a villager, i am also a villager!!!!

This just...no.

Mary Sue

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04-16-2012 , 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by godkata

I'm always amused at how, no matter what ridiculous time the thread opens, there will always be at least one person there to try and snipe first. I don't think it says anything about whether they were talking to each other. I have been in wolfchats where two wolves jointly decided to try and beat each other for first, however.