3/8 Detective Conan Vanilla Game Thread

[FN2339]

hey steve you played in the 3/1 post restricted WW game right?

i didnt see your name in the original player list but i see you posting

i was lurking the post game and this caught my eyes

Originally Posted by vyk07

binkles wolf game has gotten really cutthroat

had me fooled for a second

can you tell us what happened in that game? and what vyk means by that?

[magic_gazz]

Guys sorry if this comes off as me being a dick but I think im the only one who is making sense.

The lynch needs to be ME>Binkles, in that order.

If you dont lynch 1 of us the village auto looses at final 3 because I think we are gonna cause too much confusion.

I repeat, we can not have either of us at final 3 for the village to win.

[BigHeadDave]

My reads on people:

Steve - The nature of the way the day 1 lynch occurred on Monte, I consider you villa. I see it as a very low chance that we had a wolf-wolf wagon set on day 1. Your logic and play later on reinforces that. villagery
FN - I had you as questionable early on, and was never really able to clear you well enough to call you clear. The last day, as well as some posts today now make me lean villa on you. villagery
Andrew - Something about his tone just bothered me early on. He was very ready to provide information about the Anarchist-Perdition feud, but seemed a little on the outside. Something about it just didn't sit well. I wasn't really fond of his long-running interrogation of me about not having a clear read on crm, either... but disagreeing on play style is hardly something to call wolfy. My only real concern beyond that was that I am not sure I have seen him really push hard on anyone about anything except for that... and even then, I'm not sure he converted his pressure to a statement saying he thought I was a wolf, or even that I answered him well enough that he no longer thought so. The reason that concerns me is that it would allow him to watch me be lynched later if someone else suggested it, but allow him to sidestep blame for it after planting a seed. /tinfoil probably though. neutral-wolfy
magic - I've long thought he fought the lynch too much to be a wolf. At the same time, he also seems to fight it too much to be a townie. As of yesterday, that changed. I probably float around neutral for him. villagery-neutral
Tweedy - I have had some concerns about him from early on. A lot of his posts seemed pretty damn fluffy in the early stages. His absence late is just troubling, and he seems to like to avoid my questions. (there have been a few that he stepped around even when I brought them back later) at the same time, on the day I pressured him, I went and did some reading, and found a few things that just seemed impossible for a wolf to say. villagery-neutral
binks - this is really tough. He's done a LOT of work. I'm not 100% convinced on some of the things he takes credit for, but he certainly does seem to be on the right side of things a lot. Well, at least until we had dispatched 3 wolves. He resists questioning... well, yesterday he did.. was a little better this morning. The move yesterday seems a bit off as well. It's almost like he let Tweedy seed doubt, then followed that doubt so as to both leave the magic question alive AND provide room to blame Tweedy for it today. He then opens today blaming Tweedy. neutral-wolfy

My current thoughts. Binks MUST go today or tomorrow. I don't care if it's me in the final 3 or someone else.. I think he leaves too much of a question mark out there to leave in the game for the final 3. If we decide to leave him until tomorrow, then we should let him give us an analysis of who is most wolfy going into final day. We should NOT entertain any discussion of leaving him around, and by all means... if he won't leave that topic alone, then I have no problem with MAJing him out the door. All of this, of course, is IF we all agree he needs to go today or tomorrow.

That still leaves us with 1 lynch. Currently, I would lean Andrew, maybe Tweedy. The problem here is that I want Andrew to speak up more on a day when he has said he won't be her... and to do that (assuming the binks must go plan is a go), then it means that binks would have to go today JUST so that we can listen to Andrew tomorrow. I'm not sure how I feel about that. If you guys don't think we need more info out of him, or we go another route, then problem solved. I just do NOT want to make the decision to lynch someone else just because Andrew isn't here and the other person is. (Other reasons are perfectly acceptable, however)

[BigHeadDave]

Originally Posted by FN2339

what are the numbers based on dave? are they proportionate?

I asked everyone for three names. Rather than apply greater weight, each name was worth one point. Four of us have weighed in, plus the inferred single point for Tweedy based on binkles vote this morning.

The two half-points are based on magic giving a 50/50 to to Steve/Tweedy. I would probably prefer he choose one, but I just bit the bullet and split the final point there.

[magic_gazz]

Originally Posted by FN2339

yes i agree but the thing that is alarming me is how uneven you have been. at times you've been extremely spazzy even when unprovoked(or minimally). at other times you sound really calm and almost the voice of reason.

Could be Bi-Polar

If you look back I was pretty calm in the begining of the game. Monte (I think) even mentioned it as odd to him.

I tilted when Binkles/VMF called me a wolf for no reason. I know I shouldnt but it mega ****s me off when people do that.

It would have been fine when VMF was NK'ed and we could have got back to normal but then Mac decided to take it up as well.

He was being all demanding about my lynch, this continued the madness.

Then Mac died and Binkles continued the agressive push on me.

I didnt want to die early in the game as its not fun and its easy for people to pass off as "oh his reaction was wolfy" even when it was role neutral.

Now we are at a stage that the village needs a clear path to victory. I feel I have provided that but people still want to fight me on it.

It also makes no sense that I even agreed to go yesterday and people didnt vote me. Yet today they come in and say I could be the wolf.

What do you people want for me? Im trying to give myself up to get the village to win, all I ask is you follow through with my plan.

[Steve Yzerman fan]

I'm really in favor of a binkles lynch at this point

[magic_gazz]

NO NO NO NO

GUYS

LISTEN TO ME

[magic_gazz]

Im starting to feel like people dont want to win the game.

[Steve Yzerman fan]

I don't understand your plan Magic how does it make any sense???

[magic_gazz]

You can not lynch Binkles today over me. Never, never, never. I dont care if he is the wolf now, I still have to go first.

I do not want to lynch Binkles and someone else because that leaves me in the final 3.

I am the worst person to have there.

For the village you must lynch me.

[magic_gazz]

Originally Posted by Steve Yzerman fan

I don't understand your plan Magic how does it make any sense???

If me and Binkles are villagers and either of us is in the final 3 it will cause confusion and could lead to a village loss.

[Steve Yzerman fan]

Yes, we will lynch you tomorrow....

What's the difference?

[magic_gazz]

I ask you if you have any doubt to go find the 1 game I made final 3 in.

I snap voted VMF (becuase he always seems like a wolf) and the village lost the game.

[Steve Yzerman fan]

Magic if binkles flips villa I promise to snap vote you tomorrow

[magic_gazz]

Originally Posted by Steve Yzerman fan

Yes, we will lynch you tomorrow....

What's the difference?

The difference id tomorrow Binkles can provide a better path to victory in the final 3 than I can.

If he is a villager I put more faith in him winning the game than me.