Okay, sure. I'll bite.

'Every time a Town has been lynched...leading the way' - you mean Seeen and Ore? Never voted for Seeen. (Never even voted for beruru.) Ore, I'll grant you. Don't exaggerate, though, it's showing your desperation.

'Every time a Mafia has been lynched...far less involved' - if by that you mean more involved than anyone else in the game on both scum lynches then sure.

I called out Robo well before anyone else. My vote broke the tie that sealed his fate.

I (non-jokingly) voted Chezinu before the rest of you, too (on D3, in fact). EoD4, with everyone settled into Majiffy and Luffy, all I had to do was join one of the wagons and secure a mislynch. Instead, I voted a third candidate, my scum partner, and sparked his lynch? Sure, seems likely.

You're very good at twisting events to suit your narrative. Complete change in your formerly calm, cool style of play, of course.

I'm at a pub to use their WiFi and my battery is almost dead, so I can't do a big-ass case-against-Apoc post just yet. But a preview:

-The tone of his early posts was too polished
-His posts only gained content in D3, and in retrospect they lack depth
-He only ever jumps on other people's reads, never pushes his own
-THE GOD DAMN ROBO EOD POST
-His vote for Chezinu last night was simply good foresight for today

Have you not heard of my Majiffy gear?

Ask Robo about it. When the votes were tied 4-4.

last post a response to #1853

damn! I meant #1852!!

Looks like I'll have to level up to Majiffy gear too, today, if you are. Should be fun.

I was first to put focus on Chezi...I believe I was even been accused of being scum for doing so. Seems like the story of my game though.

But Radish is clear, because of post #401. Truth is you abandoned Robo for quite a while after that first ISO, and by the time you break the tie...his fate was already sealed. You had no choice but to vote him.

Will finish Radish's D4, and then see what evidence he has.

Should be good, the last couple of people to ISO me ended up with a more townie opinion of me. I'm sure you won't have that problem

Radishes posts at EoD:

His explanation for this post is weak, "dropping hints in case he dies". Who were Apoc's biggest detractors on D3?
Smartbomb and Slendy...and they both dropped a fair share of hints themselves!

Why would Radish die? He wouldn't. He explained as much himself just now.
Of course, if he's scum...he's gonna need to leave behind some indication that he thought he might die. Why else would he make this post?

Especially when everyone in the thread was actively prodding the wagonees for some kind of read (some kind of anything) to help sort through the madness.


Master Radishes

Brb getting more sleep but

The vote on Chez was basically the thing which sealed the deal. The decider, more or less. Otherwise Luffy would've got lynched. Pending ISO on Chez/Apoc that was where I was at.

But Radishes you liked the Robo post as a way to clear Apoc, didn't you? Or am I misremembering?

Re: Robo vote - yes, I liked it. Doesn't mean I'm wrong, though. It's very easy to believe Apoc bussed his partner thinking there was a good chance it wouldn't take off. Maybe he picked up that Fiction might be Cop and figured he'd side with the Cop to look good. It's not a dealbreaker.

Re: Chez vote - ah, I disagree. That was the perfect bus opportunity. Once Chezinu started reacting poorly, and Slendy legitimized my Chezinu vote, it was wide open. Apoc could either secure a Luffy lynch, and then look really bad D5, or vote Chezinu and look really good for lynching a Mafia. Chezinu gave himself away near the end, and Apoc had no choice. He did exactly what I would have done in his position.

I bet that Apoc was ready to switch to Luffy if someone else did, under the pretense of bowing to Majiffy's pressure (again once someone else did first, which has been Apoc's MO all game), but it never happened.

Realised this was confusing. I mean that just because I liked it before doesn't mean I'm wrong about my original opinion. I'm allowed to be wrong. I was wrong about Ore, after all.

Why would ScumMajiffy strongly try to move a solid and unbudging wagon off a scumbuddy with a mislynch?

Thinking Blode.

No way Luffyscum leaves me alive this late into the game with all of his partners dead. Me dying looks bad, but me shouting all day is worse.

I reckon we sort Blode.

Slendy kill is ****ing weird to me.

Slendy actually showed up? I assumed he was just lurking his way through the whole game.

I'm still totally ok with lynching you on principal.


Blode

What has this guy done ever?

Majiffy, you voting for me? I replaced Blode end of Day 3. Slendy was the obvious kill as well. Pretty sure you need to go reread something.

Oh then I guess VCs need to be updated with proper names in their slots.

unvote.

So it's just Apoc/Luffy/Yourself/Radishes/Myself?

Apoc

Jiffy: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1813

Dear Luffy: where do you see a VC in that post?

I'll wait while you grab your bifocals.

Vote counts have been updated for a while. let's stop dwelling on this.

Votes from post 1813 to post 1872
Night in 1 day 00:19:58
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	ApocPS	Majiffy (5), Master Radishes (11)
1	Master Radishes	ApocPS (20)
2	not voting	Captain Luffy (17), SmartBomb (5)

Looking at Chezinu's ISO now.

Majiffy - apart from the whole Myers-Briggs thing, lack of interaction. Makes sense considering Chezinu didn't make attempts to interact significantly with anyone other than Robo the entire game and Majiffy's highest level of interaction has been to get people on his wagon. Also makes sense from a town/scum perspective - the last thing you would want to do is anger what could possibly be a free ticket to winning endgame.

Radishes - Chezinu leaves him as the wise scum manipulating things behind the scenes. Idk. You vote Radishes as your first thing back...

Captain Luffy - High townread. The fact that he followed Majiffy EOD despite that interests me me. Opportunistic? Luffytown, then, I guess.

Apoc - Grouped him in the same category as Blode to begin with. (which is to say haven't read. Hm.) Then actively tried to get Apoc talking to him. But Apoc ignores him. Like, completely. Not sure how to feel about it. You'd ignore something like that as well. But nothing to follow up Chezinu's complaint of lack of interaction?

(This is 1062 onwards)

Didn't I have a large case on Apoc yesterday? He was around, and he decided to vote Majiffy instead? Chezinu's entire play last day felt like he was five days behind the game, maybe that was on purpose.

Apoc's really twisting events today and nothing I see from him points to scum!Radishes. They point to neutral!Radishes, but not mafia!Radishes. Don't like it. We don't need to discuss why Radishes is still alive. Do we? I can go through it, the mafia's kills have been pretty transparent and obvious, there has been no room for a Radishes kill.

ApocPS

This vote is extremely difficult to make. I'll need to think for a bit.

Chez voting Radishes could be a bus. Won't lie the possibility is there but I'm convinced Radishes is town.