Votes from post 8 to post 400
Night in 17:28:58
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	Phoenicks	Jrdrylie (26), No Lynches (38), Gnawazan (19)
3	ashersky	spruce (43), nolemonplease (37), Kawamii (30)
2	Gnawazan	soah (47), Phoenicks (40)
2	Jrdrylie	Lissa2 (21), notquitethere (10)
1	soah	ashersky (25)
1	Lissa2	Riki (46)
1	not voting	Mashiii (7)

Question: Can you clarify the majority lynch rules for me?

Answer: There is no majority in this game except for at lylo for the sake of being able to keep the same schedule throughout the game. Whoever has the most votes at deadline will be lynched. I.e. if someone obtains a majority of votes halfway through the day, that person is NOT lynched and the day will continue on until the deadline where at that time the person with the most votes is lynched.

I have yet to attack you or anyone at all. To say I have is a lie.

As for defending myself...I'm not. Nothing to defend against. You are clearly going for the easy mislynch here, for which I applaud you.

But there's two reasons to play today: to win, or to get voted onward. It's clear which one you care more about. If you are town, it is quite the disservice to the rest of us to pit your own grandstanding ahead of the factional win.

I guess that's what happens in a championship tournament. Play to win or play for your own ego. Yours is clearly apparent.

As for the No Lynches hate comment, I stand by it fully. No one, at that time, had given a clear or supportable reason to hate on the guy. No one was quoting my post for support--at least I had pointed out something slightly possible as a reason. It had long since been superseded, of course.

On your buddying -- I was asking about your behavior specifically, which was incredibly clear in my post; NOT commenting on your possible alignment based on it.

Read the post again. That behavior is universally scummy, so why do it.

You also conveniently ignore the fact that if Lissa is town, you could still be implementing a scum tactic: white knighting. So my town read on Lissa in no way invalidated my comment, or the question.

So stop dodging and answer, please.

To wit: your response takes my question out of context for the purpose of framing me.

I asked why you were buddying Lissa. I never said she was mafia or your partner. You inferred that, or added it yourself to create the false contradiction.

In case you still do not understand:

I asked (not accused) why you buddied Lissa (whom I never intimated was mafia or your partner) when buddying is universally accepted as a scum tactic.

If you are scum and Lissa is town, you are white knighting. And if Lissa is scum, you are protecting a partner. Those are the possibilities I'm accounting for.

Alrighty back to business boys.

I'm going to go look through an iso of all of ya because I know I missed a few things.

Considering the soah-asherky argument going on it surprises me to know soah is not voting him

right, lets start with the three lowest post counts because its a lot easier

mashii
notquitethere
gnawregan

mashed potato:
first vote is a joke vote on me (some people missed the joke - i think people who take jokes seriously are >rand to be scum but thats for another time)
has a bigass quote and text wall which has some pretty decent content

but that is about it, a few sentences afterwards but the d1 is a bit lackluster (not much to go on I suppose especially with the quiet types).

nothing really of note - with this kind of posting style I'll need a bit more content to have something to go on - null read

I will say that the fact there is little followup is not a point in her favour

notquitethere

i'm notquitethere with reading through but here goes:
first post a bit of cop/peek mechs
makes a good point regarding jr, obvious points they may be but solid nonetheless
get answers from jr and asks him more - i like the continued pressure
more continued pressure, a little bit of talking to tohers (one small line or so to a few people)
dude gets on phoneixs arse, i like his style

he focuses himself on particular people but he seems to be paying attention to the thread as a whole

i agree with his suspects and his questioning seems sincere enough

but he seems to be limiting himself a bit for whatever reason

not enough to give him a scum lean.

i like his posts overall though and they seem solid

town lean

right, its gnaw time.

not much to say initially
first thing of note is he finds phoneix putting jrd at l1 scummy
at this point i don't know if gnaw knew there was no maj in this game, but regardless he finds decent sized wagons this early to be scummy (personally i find them useless, who the **** cares if they have 10 votes in the first 10 minutes)
seems very reliant on using his home meta/tells and applying them to this situation. he realises it at least
basically just keeps tunneling phoneicks

i think he thought that maj was a thing in this game which explains somewhat why he has tunneled so heavily

i think seeing his response after realising this will be helpful to reading his alignment

fwiw i had him as townish because i find the mindset of old habits hard to break and snap judging based on what you're used to could easily be a villager move

though i suppose it could also be the move of a wolf who is trying to derp clear himself

meh, going to give a slight town lean because i understand the sentiment

definitely need to hear more from him after this though

more from him and on other players

tunnel vision isnt great

all right thats 3 of ya, i've got (sigh) 9 more to go.

gonna take a break for a bit and get back to it

I'll consider changing my vote but at the moment no one really seems mafia to me...nothing to go on if im being realistic.

Well i'm sleeping now so yeah....

Alright I'm back again. Going through the next three posters, an interesting bunch

lissa2, asherky and jrdrylie

lissa starts with a defence of myself
random throwaway town lean on spruce
questions jd
votes jd with a followable process which is good to see
defense of reads
alright not much else a lot of questioning going on, had a decent start but hasn't gone onto anything strongly yet

i'd love to hear your reads (top town and scum) and reasoning

slight town lean.

jrdrylie

has an starting post that says absolutely nothing of interest just a bunch of should we lynch people for being more experienced/worse bio. then he rands a scum team and randomly votes. this has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been regarded as a bad move.
a lot of nongame related stuff some mechanics related discussion.
doesn't like to give a read but when pressured gives a very weak one on asherky
his supsiscion list pops up with literally no reasoning
dislikes banwagoning
says phoenicks is scummy for trying to start a wagon (that precise wording is bad imo)
phoenicks has shot to the top of random leads list tm
finally elaborates on me for (imo) weakish reasons
keeps talking about his first post
questions gnaw vote

alright definitely one of my top scum leans

he doesn't give out any info unless pressured, his reads don't tend to have any logically followed backing, he hasnt engaged in almost any scumhunting

definitely a top vote for today

asherky

says he is leaning self aware scum on me (or excitable)
asks a lot of meaningless (for the games sake) questions
throws out a few leans, dislikes my wagon, dislikes soahs first post and votes him
has nothing reads on lemon and jr
a lot of one liner nothingness so far (not that i can complain lol)
he thinks bullheadedness is a scum tactic (personally i disagree but ymmv)
calls soah out for apparently buddying lissa (he certainly did defend her)
more leans with little justification
he seems to be sold on soah being scum they argue, he claims he is scum in all universes (from implication), seems at odds with what he said before

with not too much scumhunting going on, and his very eager defence against soah (when soah is not voting him) is quite pingy, not too many villagery posts or posts with process imo

he's in the scum tier

halfway done

for the record after i finish these, if noone is around to talk i'm likely heading to bed

these should let you know exactly where i stand reads wise and process wise on every player

i'll try to be around for eod but i can't guarentee it

kawamii - before i start this i will say i don't remember a single one of her posts

random vote on mashii
defends me, justifies mashii vote with decent reasoning, seems to find people voting me suspiscious
defends her mashii vote after it was pointed out as joke
random town leans out on jr and spruce
smudges soah a bit
doesn't have anything to say about mashii after the WoT, flips read without any reasoning
a LOT of fluffy posts (literally lol), decides on an asherky vote after not mentioning him
i think she had a chance to talk to me a few hours ago or at least question what ive said but she didnt say anything - clarification would be great

a lot of fluff, a few reads randomly thrown out

leaning scum

unvote

Weirdly, the thing that's bothering me the most right now is that aspect of voting from several players now that seems either unintentional, slyly crafted, or outright missing the 2plus norm. It's becoming a growing concern, and I'm not the only one to notice it. Please, if you're Town, clarify and be more careful the second half of today, if you would be ever so kind.

What I mean is, Mashi's only attempt (a possible vote on No Lynches, in bold but red) is invalid, and further posts have not mentioned it, so maybe it indeed was never there.

notquitethere has had a couple of votes that seemed as if they meant to italicise a players username rather than bold it as a vote, but then the votes count 'cause they fit the proper format.

And then a few players have had that ever spruce-like, "What? That's not who I voted, I clearly meant to vote this other player instead. There you go, fixed."


I guess it's that I come from a mafia world where votes are highlighted not just in bold, but with multiple number signs (#), even colours, signed in blood with various vote buttons, and even triplicated with auto-vote-bots, personal spreadsheetery wars, and official GMing, and then rechecked by the GM, with one final thumb-through by any member questioning the tally.

Of course, just as everywhere there's still the usual Day 1, "Ooops! I guess we mislynched anoher Townie again".

nolemon

a meh start
dislikes my 'demands for interactions'
not a fan of jrs post
points out high votes on players seems a bit much
a few questions a bit of defence
brings asher out of seemingly nowhere (i'm not reading heavily into these things so feel free to point out if im wrong)
she's willing to change her mind which shows some openness
few more questions
explains some reads
still hasn't explained the asherky vote?

besides the asherky thing she has a mild town read

definitely need an elaboration on that

otherwise generally okay posting, a bit more hunting would be nice

tbh it wouldnt surprise me if players were deliberaty misvoting just so their votes can't be tracked

but i'm a paranoid guy

whaddya thinking in terms of reads?

Spruce
All my votes have been deliberate. I like to address a person I'm voting by voting for them. I'll make this super clear in future though Spruce.