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12-10-2014 , 05:45 PM
Hi

I'm currently running a game with no reveals and I think it would have been better to try out the video mafia roleset. So let's do that.

The idea is simple:

13 players. Three are wolves.

The village has a parity seer, an angel and a 1x vig.

The wolves get to kill TWICE while they still have three on their team. Once they have two, they're down to one kill. They're allowed to "double stack" to defeat potential angel attempts.

What's a parity seer? He's a guy who sends me a name n0. He gets "received" but no result. Then n1 he sends me another name and I tell him whether that name is the same or different alignment than the guy he gave me on n0. Then on n2, his n2 peek is compared with n1 and so on.

The angel may not angel the same person consecutive nights.

The 1x vig may not shoot n0. In the game as played on video he can but not in this one.

When I rand, I'll include two dummy players. They will be villagers and can rand the power roles. If they do, those roles are out of the game.

Roles are not revealed on lynch or nightkill.

Otherwise we'll play monkey rules except that if I have to modkill, the player will simply be removed from the game and nothing else will happen. Because of the nature of the game, there's no need to adjust numbers. Also, no lynch is permitted in this game.

I plan not to start until the game I'm currently running is over but I will start as soon as it is.

I think it'll be fun to try it out so sign up and have "fun".
12-10-2014 , 06:09 PM
In
12-10-2014 , 06:58 PM
In if this starts Monday or Tuesday.

Out if it starts before/after.
12-11-2014 , 10:38 PM
Sure
12-11-2014 , 11:04 PM
In
12-12-2014 , 11:04 AM
it sounds super pro wolf no?

13er with 3 wolves - standard

no reveal - pro wolf
wolves get extra kills each night when they have 3 wolves, and when they get weaker it becomes normal?
seer is less powerful than a normal seer
angel is pro village i suppose but if they cant protect cons nights its not much

am i wrong?
12-12-2014 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
it sounds super pro wolf no?

13er with 3 wolves - standard

no reveal - pro wolf
wolves get extra kills each night when they have 3 wolves, and when they get weaker it becomes normal?
seer is less powerful than a normal seer
angel is pro village i suppose but if they cant protect cons nights its not much

am i wrong?
Though it's no reveal, the number of NKs basically acts as a reveal of the first wolf. A lot can be solved based on that
12-12-2014 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Though it's no reveal, the number of NKs basically acts as a reveal of the first wolf. A lot can be solved based on that
no cause they can double stack their kills to outdo angel so one kill does not mean there is a wolf dead
12-12-2014 , 11:07 AM
The rand making it possible for two PRs to be missing seems kinda nuts
12-12-2014 , 11:10 AM
if its next week i will prob in since ive been posting at work more than expected

but yeah the two missing pr thing is also pro-wolf so i am not getting the balance
12-12-2014 , 11:11 AM
1x vig helps a little
12-12-2014 , 11:16 AM
The only thing that this setup doesn't account for that's different from our video setup is that the angel can't get a save n0, which kinda sucks.

I'll try to look up the winrates of village/wolves when I get home from work.
12-12-2014 , 11:17 AM
can angel save same person mult times on video setup?
12-12-2014 , 11:43 AM
in video mafia i believe the medic can't protect themselves and is usually called a 'nerfed medic'
12-12-2014 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
can angel save same person mult times on video setup?
No. Can't protect themselves, can't protect same person twice in a row.
12-12-2014 , 03:17 PM
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12-12-2014 , 03:22 PM
Yeah I think if you rand with 2 dummy roles with the potential of losing a PR it's a disadvantage to not include the chance the medic has to save someone n0.

Win rate for all-stars is 24-22 in favor of the wolves as it stands right now.

The other factor that'll obviously play a part is whether or not it's easier to make reads in forum mafia or in video mafia

They also have the opportunity for multiple formals in one day until one results in a majority lynch.

So the multiple votes is another bit a info that'll lack here
12-12-2014 , 03:45 PM
can i just post videos with my reads or do I need to be there in real time(is this a real time game ran quickly)?

I fear I will be working when this runs but I do think I need to be in this
12-12-2014 , 03:52 PM
Can do I blank player instead of two to make up for N0 infoation and chances the village looses (information being like if tool isn't n0'd robik probably isn't a wolf unless tool is too /year old perceived meta)
12-12-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gamer Dude
Yeah I think if you rand with 2 dummy roles with the potential of losing a PR it's a disadvantage to not include the chance the medic has to save someone n0.

Win rate for all-stars is 24-22 in favor of the wolves as it stands right now.

The other factor that'll obviously play a part is whether or not it's easier to make reads in forum mafia or in video mafia

They also have the opportunity for multiple formals in one day until one results in a majority lynch.

So the multiple votes is another bit a info that'll lack here
how did you get this info so quickly? Do you play with us?

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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Can do I blank player instead of two to make up for N0 infoation and chances the village looses (information being like if tool isn't n0'd robik probably isn't a wolf unless tool is too /year old perceived meta)
HAHAHAHAHAHA so accurate. So glad he barely plays
12-12-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
can i just post videos with my reads or do I need to be there in real time(is this a real time game ran quickly)?

I fear I will be working when this runs but I do think I need to be in this
The format is the same that video mafia runs, but it's going to be played on forum mafia.
12-12-2014 , 05:52 PM
Okay, seems consensual that we should only have one dummy player so we'll do that

So far, I have:

master
El Timon
Batman
well named
mets
Luckbox
Redd

If any of the other commenters actually wanted to in, would they mind saying so?
12-12-2014 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmRobik
The format is the same that video mafia runs, but it's going to be played on forum mafia.
Explain it to me like im 9 because that tells me nothing

I won't be able to do a live version but can do one where I post videos
12-12-2014 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Explain it to me like im 9 because that tells me nothing

I won't be able to do a live version but can do one where I post videos
The setup will be a video mafia setup. parity cop, nerfed medic, vigi. 3 mafia. 15 players -- except it will be 13 players with 2 "random people" dying n0.
It will be played like your regular forum game. No videos need be posted. Just typing
12-12-2014 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Okay, seems consensual that we should only have one dummy player so we'll do that

So far, I have:

master
El Timon
Batman
well named
mets
Luckbox
Redd

If any of the other commenters actually wanted to in, would they mind saying so?
Why don't you just have 15 people and play it like it's normally played and the people who can get n0'd can cry for a little bit in GY and then get over it.
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