11/24 Sheep WW Vanilla+ Game Thread

[necro]

Lock villagers:
Me

Villager lean:

Anarchist: He is either a wolf super power role or a villager im inclined to think he is clear
Fluttershy: definitely a good player leaning towards villager more than anything else
thenothing:same sort of posts as every other game willing to clear her for now

My strongest wolf leans atm
Gadarene: love you bro sorry you are a wolf this game,
Insure
Noah (soul read and past history)
Vmf: people are clearing you way too easy imo
Willi/dye fairly sure one of these 2 is a wolf

Just wasted my break posting this back later

[The Moocher]

FAO: BaSaint

My first interaction with filthy where I felt something was off about him:

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

wolves make a joke to go with a vote. they often don't have real reasons to vote someone so they have to resort to making up some joke reason.

and then willi shows up in the thread right when he gets voted?

Originally Posted by The Moocher

colour me skeptical but is the 100% accurate or only 80%+?

links to evidence of this trend plz?

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

villagers make joke votes too. i think making a joke vote like that makes him above randrom chance to be a wolf. of course he is not a lock wolf, just above rand

Originally Posted by The Moocher

i think they key thing is 'people' make jokes, some more than others, but i'd be interested in some feedback on your idea to see if there's a consensus on it...in my experience, willi just likes to make jokes

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

i don't know willi. if he is a guy who always makes jokes then obviously that makes it less wolfy than from a random player. but i am still going with my read that it was a wolfy post because it was a wolfy post. and i am a little suspicious that none of the other players commented on it. looking forward to hear what CQ, sun and gad have to say.

actually, i just had an idea. what if we made CQ, sun and gad village leaders? if they are all wolves we will lose anyway. if they are all villagers, or if 2/3 them are villagers and the rest of the village listens, we should have a pretty easy win.

Originally Posted by The Moocher

I asked for people to come forward to comment on your assertion that making jokes when voting is wolfy, no-one has backed this up, you don't know Willi even though people that do have told you he likes to make jokes yet you're still going with this 'read' of yours.

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

i don't know why no one is agreeing with me and it's starting to weird me out. it's common knowledge that wolves make some joke comment and vote.

Originally Posted by The Moocher

Would love to see a list of all the things that are 'common knowledge' in WW, maybe you and some of the other experienced players can put one together.

Originally Posted by BASaint

I wouldn't bother consulting any such list, you're much better off making your own reads. Decent wolves know what the common 'wolfy stuff' is, and presumably try to avoid doing it.

The wolves are going to try to look like they are working to solve the game, but they will usually be making cases against people they know to be villagers. So, look for inconsistent arguments, faulty logic, that sort of thing, then call people out if you see it.

Originally Posted by The Moocher

Well this is what I'm saying, I'm calling out filthyvermin for making a read based only on what is apparently 'common knowledge'.

Although if his assertion isn't common knowledge and isn't backed up by others then perhaps I can interpret his read as a personal one, rather than one based on what he perceives as the WW consensus.

One thing I've been told by an experienced player outside of the game is 'if you're arguing with someone, they're probably a villager' and in the context of other WW games I've played, and ones I've read in the archives, this makes sense to me.

Is that something that makes sense to you?

Based on that idea I have a vlean on vermin but I'm trying to demand some clarity is all, I think that's good for the village.

I think you ran some interference for filthy and she left the convo and didn't answer my question. Being a sensitive type I was a little hurt, especially as you had preciously asked:

Originally Posted by BASaint

any other euros wanna solve the game with me while the dirty yankee dogs celebrate their nonsense holiday?

I thought we were going to be boys

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Mine and Noah's response to your vote, note the bolded part:

Originally Posted by BASaint

Not gonna be around for eod today unfortunately

The only decent wolf read i've had so far is Evene, so i'll go with him.

Not a fan of the 425 votes. I think he's spaz village, and we're probably going to get a lot more info on him in the coming days with which to make a more informed decision due to his high post count. I urge patience on 425, and would prefer either Evene or someone with a very low level of participation so far.

Originally Posted by Noah

Have villager leans on Aksdal, Sun, Evene, and Roo.

Really don't like the reasoning behind BA's vote.

Crossnerd, Dye, and Gad seem suspect.

Originally Posted by The Moocher

Agree with you here Noah so I'm quoting it for reference.

filthy and a couple of other current wolf suspects were also asking for this and you also now have Noah as a wolf read.

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Here filthy immediately runs to your defence, then when I question her you take over the baton and let her avoid answering me.

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

basaint

Originally Posted by crackedquads

BASaint

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

whoa, this is weird. they both vote him at exactly the same time like out of the blue....

i think CQ and sun wouln't do this as wolf team mates. they are almost never gonna be w/w here.

i admit i haven't read the thread yet. can someone please give me cliffs on the case on ba?

i am going to skim the thread now. i am not going to read the whole D1. i think chips said D1 is really valuable to go back and reread later in the game. i am excited to try that this game.

Originally Posted by The Moocher

I'm assuming it's valuable to re-read the thread every game day, sure it's valuable to re-read d1 later in the game but it has to be valuable now also...and deliberately not re-reading d1 so the info will me MORE valuable later seems counter-intuitive.

Originally Posted by BASaint

in my limited experience, d1s seem to be a mix of fluff and guesswork. unless one has a read based on a thorough understanding of the tendencies of another poster, there doesn't seem to be much to learn from d1.

i could be wrong however.

Thoughts?

[Willi]

Can you explain please why me or dye have to be a wolf?

[The Moocher]

I should add that my question 'Is that something that makes sense to you?' from the above post went unanswered, so you and filthy both dodged me imo.

[The Moocher]

Originally Posted by Willi

Can you explain please why me or dye have to be a wolf?

Willi, you don't need to react to everyone that lists you as wolfy, I think at least one wolf has done this to you itt and could be setting you up for a mislynch.

[BASaint]

they both voted for me cause i had a pop at cq (who was spamtarding the thread all of d1), i'll find it for u

[BASaint]

3:37

Originally Posted by BASaint

cq: preferred it when u were spending 1/5 of ur posts reminding us all that you've had a girlfriend. those were as worthless as ur more recent posts but were at least legible

3:39

Originally Posted by crackedquads

BASaint

3:39

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

basaint

3:41

Originally Posted by crackedquads

I'm just oting basaint out of spite but I also don't kare if he dies as a random so F him. Gad at least earns a day one pass from me.

Seemed/seems now pretty obv to me why they voted for me.

[The Moocher]

Originally Posted by BASaint

they both voted for me cause i had a pop at cq (who was spamtarding the thread all of d1), i'll find it for u

I've obv read it.

Why would filthy, a wolf, be so keen to defend you in that situation.

[The Moocher]

You seem to be answering a question I didn't ask, unless your only thoughts on my long multi-quote were to tell me why you got votes from CQ and Sun, but that is obviously not what I'm driving at here.

[BASaint]

oh right. well, shrug if you think that hes defending me there.

[Willi]

Originally Posted by The Moocher

Willi, you don't need to react to everyone that lists you as wolfy, I think at least one wolf has done this to you itt and could be setting you up for a mislynch.

Yeah, but this was pretty wierd statement that one of us has to be a wolf.

[The Moocher]

Originally Posted by Willi

Yeah, but this was pretty wierd statement that one of us has to be a wolf.

I agree with you.

[necro]

Well not 100% but out of everyone else ive read ive got the strongest feelings from you 2 they could be wrong and until otherwise ill keep you there but remember its only a lean at this stage, ill keep you informed of your removal or inclusion to the lock wolf list/lock villager

[Evene]

Variance stuff:

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

filthy is villa too

if he was a wolf, i dont think this would be the best thing going on now

from the start of day. doesn't comment on filthy for the rest of the day.

argues with Anarchist all day (not gonna quote -too many)

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

just got bac and skimmed the thread

At 8 minutes to night.

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

i really think its a good idea to CFD baistaint here


he was much more active when he played before

he was very enthusiastic in reading the thread

we have 11 pages now and i feel like hes made 5 posts and no reads


lets go villagers

PIle on

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

wow the way the votes are set up

its almost impossible for filthy to be a wolf here

is reading the thread rather than filthy

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

consdiering i also think you are a wolf

i dont care

your posts were the worse today

u called me wolfy then villagery then wolfy and then said ud make a case on me and then didnt?

to anarchist

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

lets compromise then


anarchist

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

i agree with this

i dont remember thinking any filthy posts were wolfy also

id love to kill anarchist or basaint herwe

consistent with his earlier posts

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

then put ur vote on anarchist and try to help him

from ur tone in this post it seems clear u dont think filty is a wolf

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

you are such a moron if you think mine and imp and lorettas move here are wolfy

even if we all are wolves and so is filty

there is no way we play like this

and risk outing ourselves for one of our newer werewolf players


this post from tyoy is incredibly wolfy to me

Out of the anarchist voters, VM seems the most likely to be villa. His anarchist vote is consistent with his reads. I'm not clearing him completely, but he's definitely not the first one I want to lynch (that would be Loretta).

[The Moocher]

A list of players I wouldn't mind seeing wagoned today:

Loretta8
Crossnerd
Imp
BaSaint
425kid
Necro
VM

There has to be at least 3 wolves in there imo.