Hi fellas,

following the long tradition of 2p2 organized tournaments, I would like to propose the following format, and solicit interest for it in this thread:

Rules

• Buy-in: 350.

• Min. amount of players: 16; max. amount of players: 32.

• Participants will be randomly drawn into a tournament bracket.

• Matches will be played over PS homegames using play money chips as buy-ins.

• The winner of a round is determined using the best-of-five modus (win three matches to get through), and matches are effectively played as deep HUSNGs, using these settings: ,
  which produce the following structure sheet:
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• Matches should be played on two tables at a time unless players have to wait for the new table to pop up or if there is only one match left to play.

• Play will take place in the three week span from July 4 to July 24; the exact time schedule is tbd, but the idea is that players will have about 4-5 days to set up their matches for each round. Players have to comply with the pre-set time schedule or their buy-in is forfeited.

• The payout structure is 50% for 1st, 25% for 2nd, and 12.5% each for 3rd and 4th place.

Remarks/Suggestions/Asks

• There is no buy-in level that pleases everyone; I believe the proposed level is low enough to ensure and high enough to incentivize participation from a sufficient amount of players. I suggest that people who would like to wager more use this thread for side action to lever up.

• In case interest is sufficient, we are in need of an escrow. Usually there are a few reputable and helpful guys out there -- would be much appreciated!

• It would be great if the escrow could also conduct the random draw after the participant list is set; it's really quickly done, for instance using this tool: http://challonge.com/tournament/bracket_generator.

• Please indicate interest by posting "in" or smth in addition to your PS name. In case of very high interest (>32), it's first come-first serve. In case we get an amount of players b/w 16 and 32, we will use byes and vote in this thread whether the people who got unlucky to play the first round and lose get some % of their buy-in back or not.

• I reserve the right to disqualify players from participating; obviously I'm not planning on using this strategically, but if I know you and you have a scummy rep, I won't let you play.

• The reason we are playing HUSNGs rather than HU cash is that homegame cash tables offer no timebank which makes play (even on just one table) very unfun. The proposed format is comparable to a SCOOP HU MTT, and offers 60 sec timebanks for all matches.

• I'm not sure whether we actually need a judge or not in the case that one or both players don't comply with the time schedule. I'll leave this open to discussion.

Cheers

In.

+1 long time since a good match

I strongly recommend playing one home game of this style before you commit to this structure. Personally I found the structure led to very long and boring games where you trade small amounts of chips for a long time before it's suddenly shallow. I'm a HU hypers reg but I like deep play too, it's just that in this specific structure it doesn't feel like the deep play is meaningful. It's just a bit of a weird blind level structure.

Everyone's different ofc, but thought I'd drop my 2cents since I've played this home-game structure with high hopes and ended up disappointed. Looking at the structure more though maybe the "fast" fixes it a bit--I know the slower style HU home-games are way worse. This one might be OKish. Just make sure to play one before to get a feel for avg match length and such.

Great idea though, don't want to piss on your work! It's awesome you're organizing this and I'm very tempted to play even despite not loving the format because it sounds like a lot of fun. Will have to see how the dates line up. Best of luck with this!

In before hyper donks piss on your work, oh wait!

Thanks for the feedback. It can't be a bad idea to check out the format beforehand. As for the structure, I understand that some people may not love it, but the alternatives are slim. The main reason we can't play a format that resembles HU cash better is outlined above; the gameplay is just way too fast to 1/2-table, which will lead to a lot of timeout-folds. There are other reasons such as players having to buy PM chips; payers can't really know how much they are up/down using auto-rebuy without a HUD because PM cash is raked; setting a fixed amount of hands leads to some perverse endgame-tactics etc.

People may not like the format because some of these matches will undoubtly end in a shortstacked endgame situation, and that's a reasonable objection. Regarding the unmeaningful play at the deeper blind levels, I think I disagree but it's all subjective. I'm open to discussing changes but the options are slim as well; the next shortest blind level is 5mins which would turn this into a turbo fest while the intention is cleary to ensure a lot of play at the deeper blind levels; the next biggest stack size is 10k (I think), which surely only works in favour of your argument.

Personally, I believe the format is fine as it is. You are correct that the Fast option really speeds things up (I believe in the Slow version not only do players have way too much time to act, but also the cards are being dealt slower). I have played a few sets of two matches at a time, and the gameplay is really fun. I haven't measured it but it feels like it's simliar to the timing on HU zoom tables.

As for the expected time spent for this tournament, it of course depends on each opponent and how the match is going. I think a good estimate of the average time for one round is about 3.5hrs, or 4hrs if players agree on breaks. Some rounds may be over way quicker, and I think the max. time for one round if it goes all the way is like 6hrs. One advantage of this tournament is that players are really flexible with regards to setting up their matches, and time spent is time spent playing (when you register into a HU MTT you usually have to wait up to 2hrs before you even start playing).

lm in

yeah ill play i guess. dont wana escrow tho :-p

edit, actually dates could be trouble. will see if we get the players

Actually, it's 120 sec timebank per match, and the regular timebank is about 20 sec.

I think my estimates may have been too high/conservative. It seems that the avg time per match shouldn't exceed an hour, so it's like 2-2.5 hrs for rounds that don't require a match 5, and 3-3.5 hrs for rounds that do, on average.

I'd also like to remind people who are in Vegas or anywhere else that you should be able to play PM homegames from almost all places.

aight I'm in

Would like to do this. Depends on what exact dates end up being.

I'll play, could be fun, right in the middle of WSOP main event though, unsure how good this is, maybe should wait to start it right after?

I'm happy to postpone the start until after the WSOP if that helps people. Let's wait another week or so and see how many people jump in, and then decide on when to schedule it together.


Interest indicated so far (2p2 names):

fityfmi
DrHouseMD
ChicagoRy
Kaarem
TooCuriousso1
OMG_IM_SEXY
Chabra
Fayth
samooth

Would there be any interest in running a smaller one? 350 is a little steep for someone who doesn't really play much poker anymore

I'd be interested in a $100 HU tournament.

I'd imagine we could get at least 32-64 runners for that one

Its a 2p2 hu tournament. Buyin obviously has to be about three fiddy. I suggest you go to the marketplace and sell action at a overpriced MU

im in, also down to sidebet with anyone

In

In. Gl guys

Will play if it's after 18th July

Sounds fun, I'm in.

i have fond memories of these tournaments, and if it doesn't conflict with wsop i'd love to play :-)

Since a few people have indicated a conflict with the WSOP schedule, and to leave registration open a bit longer, I am setting the new time frame to July 18 to August 10. If that doesn't work for anyone in the list below, please lmk.


Interest indicated so far (2p2 names):

fityfmi
DrHouseMD
ChicagoRy
Kaarem
TooCuriousso1
OMG_IM_SEXY
Chabra
Fayth
DontBanMePlz
cakewalk
T-Macha
1punch
matti55
luckychewy
samooth

Happy to announce that the eventual winner will get a 2p2 undertitle ("RIP HU Champ" or w/e); thanks kjemmy!

I cant play from 23 to 13-14 of August. lame

in