I started playing HU. I dont even try it for now vs regs or solid players. Playing against donks, fishes....
When I looked at my database in PT I was shocked how damn high the rake is. I mean its really ridiculous. Then I thought how can I change my game style to affect the rake, I got following ideasall ideas apply play vs fish,maniac,donk)
1)
- Reduce your open raise Range, if V. calls 100% in the BB
Reason: you play less pots(less rake) but you have a stronger range and get value bet easier
Disadvantage: I think there is no disadvantage?
2)
- If V. dont call much in the BB and doesnt defend: Open raise 100% -> the pots arent raked when its folded
3)
- Now hardest thing: Valuebet extreme thin?! Try to play nearly always for stacks?! And start to crush souls -> So you need lesser hands to stack someone?! Basically 3) means to get mich bigger bb/100

Can you give me some input how to reduce rake or comment if my 1-3) are true or not?
Thanks

Nobody?? Was my question that stupid ?

The best way to avoid rake is to not play.

Anyway, there's not much you can do, honestly, other than winning $ and moving up. If you're on a site with a no-flop no-drop rule, play slightly tighter preflop and use larger raise sizes (3x BTN, and maybe size up your 3-bets a bb). Of course, opening more frequently (and smaller) against people who don't defend enough should be a natural adjustment you make even when there's no rake, so that doesn't really have much to do with this topic specifically. Likewise, if your winrate is higher, you'll notice the effects of rake less, but that's pretty much a tautology -- it's like answering the question "How do I make more money?" with "Well, make more money!" Increasing your winrate isn't exactly trivial. It's not like we can say, "Yeah, just increase your winrate! Problem solved."

Never a stupid . question what site do you play on ?

If you play 1/2 or below set your preflop raise size to 2.45 instead of 2.5. And at .5/1 set your size to 2.95 instead of 3. You'll rake 5 cents less per hand a lot of the time this way. If you see 50% of flops on the button in single raised pots you'll save .5 * 100 * .5 = 25 * $.05 = $1.25 per 100 hands or get a nifty boost to your win rate. Well a bit less because it only helps the times they fold to cbet. The more they play oop the more you save, also. This can pretty easily give you something like an extra 1bb/100 at 100 if you play mostly donks.

Next big point is to just not play regs at anything below 2/4. It is a huge rake machine and the 12 bb/100 the two of you are losing at 200 combined will not be overcome most of the time.

^^which sites are you talking about?

Any site where the rake is compounded every dollar, which is most AFAIK.

What if I raise 4x against stations? Should it be 3.95 then?

Ya

This also works at sites with 1 dollar 5% rake too BTW at 2/4 so there you can open to 4.95... and can open to 3bb instead at the 1/2.

Also I forgot to mention another way to avoid rake. Don't be one of those idiots minraising 100% at 1/2. This will cause your opponent to defend way more oop, especially if they are a decent reg. It is truly ridiculous to me how many regs who sit 1/2 do this even after their opponent defends 85%. Don't you realize how much money you are costing yourself (and your opponent)? Might want to be a word crusher or w/e and do this but c'mon, save it for the higher stakes where rake isnt eating everyone alive. Another good tip: even if you don't table select too much, at least be unwilling to play a guy minraising at 2/4 or below as your opponent is creating a super crappy situation for the both of you.

Thanks for The replies, will try that. Mäh i am not at nl200 now. 90% nl 50. i think rake is at every Site too high for hu. If both hitting will and Nobody dominantes You See The stacks burning Award. I Play bwin/Stars/ipoker

The same idea works for 50nl, too. Raise to 1.45.

^^Do you realise that the time you waste typing in 1.45, 2.95 etc. will slow down your game and decrease an amount of hands logged in? I doubt it will compensate that extra dollar per 100 hands unless you install some kind of script, which is meh, I don't even use HUD anymore.

Set the preflop size in stars and its a single click.

I don't see an option at Stars to setup incremential amount of SBs or BBs. Where did you find it?

the rake is too damn high, just play fish , donks, maniacs and save some money on your raise size.

Yeah looks like they changed it. I haven't played 1/2 in quite a long time so I didn't realize that. You could probably get a script to do it pretty easily, though. Was watching my buddy play the other day and one of his opponents was doing this instantly every hand so there is definitely a way to get it done. If the average save is something around 75 cents per 100 hands you'd save 75 dollars in your next 10k hands. Maybe not worth it at 1/2. At .5/1 it'd be closer to 125 dollars you'd save, though.

settings > gameplay > bet slider

^^cool story brah! You are so clever.

i answered your question, why the dickhead response?

Are you sure?

At least, try to read just one post above yours.

What makes you think that I didn't look at the most obvious betslider menu? Doh.

Play money poker,that's your solution.
If you want to make money online rake is something that you can't avoid!

Go play 100000nl the rake is pretty small there if you compare it to lower stakes.

will try it with 1/4 BRM. thanks