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01-03-2010 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sbfootball_84
i knew this manual would be overrated.
i knew you'd prove you're a moran
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01-03-2010 , 08:27 PM
A++ post imo

Don't play HU SnGs anymore, but def. still useful to think about. I'll be sending a lot of people to come read this.
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01-03-2010 , 08:44 PM
Thanks Skates, good stuff! Best of luck to you in future!!
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01-04-2010 , 11:10 AM
cool preview. when are you gonna release the manual?
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01-04-2010 , 11:26 AM
there will be no manual. this is it.
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01-04-2010 , 11:43 AM
Interesting read, I''ll definitely come back to this when I'm playing higher stakes. Thanks for sharing.
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01-04-2010 , 12:56 PM
i am jealous of skate's brain. he got one that works good.
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01-04-2010 , 02:11 PM
there is no spoon
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01-04-2010 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i am jealous of skate's brain. he got one that works well.
fyp, but not your brain.
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01-04-2010 , 11:42 PM
wow, if you ever did write a book on poker, i bet it would be a best seller. good luck on your future endeavors. too bad we're losing someone this great in the HU community.
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01-05-2010 , 02:50 AM
Another one to absorb and grasp. Very nice post skates
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01-05-2010 , 03:27 AM
This ones a bookmarker.
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06-02-2010 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by skates
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Anddddd here you go: If your frequency is lower than 50%, I will raise any two cards. I'm not going to spell that one out for you. If you don't see why that is the case, you need to step back and think about it more. If your frequency is higher than 50%, I will raise any hand that I am also calling a jam with, and fold all hands I would fold to a jam with.

So what is the result? I have a raise/fold range if and only if I think your 3-bet frequency is less than 50%.
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-Skates / psimalive
i am not 100% sure what skates means there. if villain is only shoving over my btn min raises or fold (SCP) and if villain shoves over my btn with less than 50% he will min-raise atc and now my question:

call villain shoves with atc or call with e.g. top 35% only?
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06-02-2010 , 07:34 AM
your calling range differs from villain to villain based on what you interpret their 3bet shoving frequency/range to be. but if they're 3bet shoving less than 50% then no you don't call the shoves with atc:

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Originally Posted by skates
So what is the result? I have a raise/fold range if and only if I think your 3-bet frequency is less than 50%.
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06-02-2010 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chumplestultz
your calling range differs from villain to villain based on what you interpret their 3bet shoving frequency/range to be. but if they're 3bet shoving less than 50% then no you don't call the shoves with atc:
yeah actually obvious - after finishing some cals - however i have difficulties why to min-raise atc when villain is shoving <50%.
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06-02-2010 , 09:32 AM
cause when u MR ur putting in 1.5BBs to win the 1.5BBs that are already out there. with more than 50% success rate ur breeding the EV

keep in mind this assumes that villain only ever folds or shoves to ur MR.
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06-02-2010 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Chumplestultz
cause when u MR ur putting in 1.5BBs to win the 1.5BBs that are already out there. with more than 50% success rate ur breeding the EV

keep in mind this assumes that villain only ever folds or shoves to ur MR.
yep - small calc error again my side. put 1BB isof 1.5
but still do still not see much new to learn about this specific thing.
seems quite obvious...but yeah sometimes obvious things get forgotten
or over seen.

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