Sixth hh review: yaqh $80 - Page 3 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

stop worrying about balance lol
n/o

edit: even if you give your preflop oop ranges on a sheet of paper vs your opponent he'll still suck if you ask me except if he like plays 300s+ or smth

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05-03-2010 , 09:27 AM

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rumnchess

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This is sweet stuff.

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05-03-2010 , 09:56 AM

#53

Am I a Turtle?

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 459

I’ve spent most of the morning printing of all of spmaz HH reviews I have found they have tons to offer, and think players that are just learning and moving out of small or mid stakes should do the same and study them IMO, it will fast track you to beating the games when moving up.

Thanks for the valuable info and please keep doing them much appreciated

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05-03-2010 , 10:17 AM

#54

ChichenItza

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Originally Posted by spamz0r

i dont think floating turn is a good idea in the 93o hand tbh
he will pretty likely barrel river again once we call, and he could be doing this with like AA which he limped or bottom 2 for all we know
if his range is weak, we're probably behind against > 50% of it and quite sure he also bets two pair the way he's been playing (like we see later, he bet when we had T2 on J9826 or smth and just had 4th pair so he just bets if he thinks he has the best hand i guess; obv we dont have this read atm but it seems to be okay given that he hasnt really checked showdown too much so far

good reasoning! ´may be i must learn to laydown tp in such situations.

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05-03-2010 , 06:04 PM

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henway

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Hand #83
Full Tilt Poker $80 + $4 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 378989
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Hero (BB): t1685 M = 18.72
BTN/SB: t1315 M = 14.61

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BB with 6 K
BTN/SB raises to t120, 1 fold

Final Pot: t120
BTN/SB wins t120

Seems like a jam to me. He opens enough, rarely folds buttons really, has limped a couple times so far but don't think he does it enough to justify not jamming here.

180 in the pot we can take right there; let's say his callingrange is perfect (which isn't the case obv, since he's either folding K7-type hands or also calling QJT pick 2 type hands, but for the sake of education...):
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.859% 32.19% 01.66% 2070590724 106993152.00 { K6o }
Hand 1: 66.141% 64.48% 01.66% 4146836796 106993152.00 { 22+, A2s+, K7s, A2o+, K7o+ }

So if we get called we're going to be in a 2630 pot with 33.859% equity and will lose 424.5 chips everytime we get called.
A range of [22+,A2s+,K7s,A2o+,K7o+] is 26.1% of all hands and he needs to fold 2.3555 times as much as he opens to even out the ev we lose from jamming and getting called which means he needs to open 61.5% of the time, which is OBV true and this is even with a perfect callingrange against our hand.

I appreciate these HH reviews and your posts in general. Very helpful. thx Spamz0r

Based on the assumptions listed I'm pretty sure the math is off in hand #83, let me know if I'm looking at this right.

If he's calling w/perfect range (26.1%) and we have 33.859% equity when called we are not profitable if he is opening 61.5%. I think he needs to be opening more than 88% for this to be +ev.

if villian opens 61.5%: we lose 76.55chips when he calls w/perfect range

26.1/61.5 = 42.44% so when calling perfect he's calling 42.44%; therefore, -424.5(.4244) +180(.5756) = -76.55

if villian opens 88%: we're just beginning to be positive ev

26.1/88 = 29.66% so -424.5(.2966) +180(.7034) = +.905 chips

the number you posted that looked weird was the 2.3555. You said he needs to fold 2.3555 as often as he opens to even out the ev we lose from being called when jamming which is how you got to him needing to open 61.5% or more. Where did this # 2.3555 come from? I assume you got this by dividing the 424.5/180 but I don't think this is correct because if you do the ev calc based on it the #'s don't work. Let me know if i'm looking at this correctly

thx again

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05-03-2010 , 08:39 PM

#56

Mr. G

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Originally Posted by spamz0r

Hand 20: I would expect to see a lot 4x really and low pocket pairs; some better flushdraws or worse flushdraws as well... only partially trips if you ask me; also not to forget random bs hands given how this played out so far... in spots like this you usually just have to check how much equity you got vs 4x and then decide what to do (we got 54% against 46s for example). If it starts to get close add in better/worse draws, some small pocket pairs, some Tx and some craphands, though those all even out in the end most of the time anyway.

Yeah i mixed up 4 with 5. So you put opponent on a 4 most of the time and would not call with only one overcard then.

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Hand 21: I think we have a ton of fold-equity if flop is like 842 with one club, we check and he bets pot. Again, not really looked at prev hands so don't know what reads we had so far, but from the KK25 board I'd say he's not afraid to put a ton of money in to fold later so might even like lead small, then jam over his potraise and he'll still fold often enough to justify calling preflop.

my question was more relating to your plan to lead small on AQ4ss and continue bluffing on turn or checkraise jam a good turn. what if villain checks turn and we have air on the river. we give up, right?

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Hand 31: Havent really replied myself so waiting for yaqh first so I dont get what you're asking really.

somehow i read the hand like hero checked and villain bet 1bb...

would also be an interesting spot ...

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Hand 54: Oh yeah, messed up position here, hehe. Reviewed this in a .txt file so normal that there's some mistakes SOMEWHERE. I'd probably cbet this board then and try to take it away. If this is AFTER the KT hand I would cbet/give up 100% for sure unless I hit toppair or backdoor straight or smth.

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Hand 76: I dont get your question really; for being board aware, I mean that if he would hit toppair on 852 for example, than he will be leading it more likely than on Kxx because a pair of 8s is WAY more vulnerable than a pair of kings obv; thinking of flushdraws/straightdraws is 6max thinking imo; in hu sng's it's pairs really so KQ6dd board your toppair is less vulnerable than on 823r for example.

ty for insight and all replies. I would love to see a video of you playing or you commenting one of your own hand histories vs a thinking but loosing player.

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05-04-2010 , 08:53 AM

#57

semu

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People should definently read these. It has helped my game alot.

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05-06-2010 , 12:13 PM

#58

yaqh

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Hand #11
Full Tilt Poker $80 + $4 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 378917
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Hero (BB): t1680 M = 56
BTN/SB: t1320 M = 44

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 5 7
BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) 6 9 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t20, Hero raises to t80, BTN/SB calls t60

Turn: (t240) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t160, BTN/SB calls t160

River: (t560) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t380, BTN/SB folds

Final Pot: t560
Hero wins t560

Nh sir. Preflop looks standard, though he opens a lot we don't know if he folds to 3bets easily. Flop is standard obv, I prefer to take the lead here than to c/c the small bet and see a potsized bet on the turn when we pick up OE or flushdraw; we also have a decent amount of fold equity on a board like this it seems.

Turn is pretty good card to barrel, we pick up some extra outs now and his handrange shouldn't be that strong. Only real interesting is riverbet if you ask me. We don't have any reasons to assume that he's
1) a big station with 9x/TT-KK
2) plays an A like this
3) barrels his busted draws
4) will spazz over a smallishbet with both weak showdown and busted draws
in which case I don't mind anything from 250-450 to try and test either of these.

Couple questions about this hand --

First, can you expand a little bit on how we could use different river betsizings to test different things about villain's play? I guess we can obviously learn a lot of things if we bet, he calls, and we see a showdown, but what can we learn by making different betsizes if he folds?

Second, what do you do on, say, a Jo river?

Thanks