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Old 07-24-2012, 08:48 AM   #1
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NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

OMG those players tilts me so much. He never folds to cbets 10%, never folds to barrels and amazingly I never hit against these guys. I will not cbet light, but really its so tilting. How do you handle vs them?

Here I barrel turn because I think he can call me once again with worse, and on the river when I check and he shoves, I think I should have folded but since he never folding to cbets and barrels, I didnt gave him much credit. I thought he would have raised sets, 2 pairs already and I didnt gave him credit to valuebet king there. So the only hand I can gave him was the ace. But also alot of other crap.

    IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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    Hero (BB): $65.20 (130.4 bb)
    SB: $71.13 (142.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
    SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $3.50

    Flop: ($10) 2 8 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50

    Turn: ($23) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $14.50, SB calls $14.50

    River: ($52) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets $45.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $39.20 and is all-in

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    Old 07-24-2012, 09:53 AM   #2
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    Re: NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

    The ace really is an awful card for us here. The flop is dry and a ton, if not most of the range he's calling our c-bet with is A-high type hands. I don't think the bet ott is bad but the river is a very easy c/f imo.
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    Old 07-24-2012, 12:49 PM   #3
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    Re: NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

    I bet/fold the turn and check/fold the river. There's definately value in the turnbet and there is no reason to assume he is going to turn a flophit in a bluff OTR.

    If he owns us with 79, wp gg carebear.
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    Old 07-24-2012, 03:03 PM   #4
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    Re: NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

    well played
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    Old 07-24-2012, 03:17 PM   #5
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    Re: NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

    Bet bigger flop

    agree with rest said besides ^
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    Old 07-24-2012, 03:41 PM   #6
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    Re: NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

    F3b and sample size? If he folds a lot to 3b I would fold the river. Also depends on things like does he turn weak pairs into bluff etc...He never folds the flop so he could have some turned flush draws and other creative hands but mehhh Hard to say without some solid reads about his game
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    Old 08-05-2012, 03:23 PM   #7
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    Re: NL50: QQ, 2 overcards, facing shove on river

    bet/fold turn, c/f river. horrible turn card.

    But since you c/c this river your "read" must be that if you check to this guy he will bet whether he has it or not. I don't know what your 3bet strategy is but if you are including hands like AT+, KJ+ etc then very often you are gonna miss flop/turn and he will steal the pot from you. If you just check flop whenever you don't hit it's gonna be obvious and betting it is not gonna be profitable if u have 0% fold equity. Why not c/r flop w your big hands like this one to strengthen your checking range ?
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