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Old 02-03-2012, 02:37 PM   #1
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NL50 deep, Still a call?

Guy is a aggro fish running 81/61 with a 45% 3 bet and 0% fold to 3 and 4 bets over 234 hands, He has shown the ability to valuebet thin.

I'm assuming that its a standard stack off 100bb deep but now that we are 200 the turn shove made me sick. Do we still stack off here? Im suspecting the villains 4-bet calling range to be super wide since hes 3betting 45% and over the 8 times Ive 4bet hes yet to fold.

At the time I was kinda annoyed I had the A(C) as although it is the card that gives me alot of equity regardless, it takes away alot of his spaz turn shoves.


BB: $94.10 (188.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $198.04 (396.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12.50, BB calls $9

Flop: ($25) 7 Q J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16.50, BB calls $16.50

Turn: ($58) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $65.10 and is all-in


Hero?
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:59 PM   #2
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

not very happy about it but im calling this all day, especially against this opponent. There is actually nothing to discuss imo
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:35 PM   #3
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

Fold, we are never ahead except for maybe KcQx but villain has at least 2 pair here. In order for the call to be BE you need around 38% equity, and AQ doesn't have that against his range.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:36 PM   #4
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

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not very happy about it but im calling this all day, especially against this opponent. There is actually nothing to discuss imo
There is a lot to discuss imo
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:53 PM   #5
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

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Guy is a aggro fish running 81/61 with a 45% 3 bet and 0% fold to 3 and 4 bets over 234 hands

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Fold, we are never ahead except for maybe KcQx but villain has at least 2 pair here. In order for the call to be BE you need around 38% equity, and AQ doesn't have that against his range.
what 2 pairs u think he might have? u think that our hand dont have 38% equity against this guy range(3bettnig 45 and he is folding 0% to 4bets). U think he plays QJ this way? U think he ships turn with a flush?
i dont have stove, so can you please stove something like: KcTx, KxTc, AxQx, KcQx, JcAx, JxKc, 10x9x,7x8x, AxKc, QxTc, Qx9c, Qx8x.. lets say i put him on that range here
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:55 PM   #6
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

oh and i forgot to add some spazz hands like AxTc, 9xTc and so on which shouldnt be excluded imo..
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:27 PM   #7
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

^ how's 9xTc a spazz hand?
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:29 PM   #8
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^ how's 9xTc a spazz hand?
guess its time to sleep for me
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:40 AM   #9
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

The flop is super wet so i would bet/call full pot.
On turn I probably call it off- we have reasonable equity against his 78 type hands and there's a decent chance he's completley FOS- or has 1 pair with FD hands like QK w/ k clubs that we're in really decent shape against.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:20 AM   #10
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

FML call
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:50 AM   #11
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

In fact we need "only" 34.6%, I think we have it. Call.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:30 AM   #12
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Re: NL50 deep, Still a call?

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The flop is super wet so i would bet/call full pot.
Yeah but it's supposed to be partly sunny this Wednesday so actually I'd probably ch/f. I think my premise supports my conclusion just as well as yours does.
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