Originally Posted by TouchMeThere
If he does have a brain which you stated he's a reg and at least understands some of things he is doing then this is a terrible card for him to think that bet/folding is good here since you have not much fold equity if you ship (24 more for him to call in a 75 pot). If he's floating Ax type hands here I highly doubt he leads this paired board with showdown value even though he bet just over half pot. Were you trying to get him to fold? or were you assuming you were ahead even if he calls?
I didn't read a lot of the posts in this thread so maybe I missed some more reads?
I was trying to just extract value out of floats that stab the turn when checked to, counting on good equity even if I'm actually beaten and called.
Originally Posted by adoyal
c/r all in is bad because your not always going to do this with QQ+ you'd more likely two barrel right? your not gonna check raise all in because your just gonna get owned by a jack unless you know he's going to call you light. Your more likely to just continue barrelling or check call cos theres not a tun you can get value from here.
So when you check raise all in it doesnt look strong as because I said theres not a lot your going to get value from so its likely to be a semi bluff with AQ AK KQ etc.
Its a good move to get callled light by a weak hand like A10 but not believable as a bluff
Thanks, this makes sense. I would in fact check QQ there against this guy OTT (not just on this turn). Betting twice doesn't punish him for float+steal plays.
But raising (and ranges for raising) definitely needs to be ingrained in the picture.