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06-23-2014 , 07:49 AM
100bb ef vs reg,hero 2x btn with KTo and he 3bets 8bb ~20% but prob much more cos i dont have a goog sample.Hero call flop was QJ3r and he c bet 3/4.
What is better play without much reads,raise and gii on flop or call and play turn ip?
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06-23-2014 , 08:08 AM
call and play turn ip
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06-23-2014 , 08:15 AM
Thank you,if he bet turns with vhands and few draw or over and gs should i jam my hand or call again?
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06-23-2014 , 09:45 AM
Just flat again, that's what you would do with your valuerange.
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06-26-2014 , 01:50 AM
On A,K,T,9 whether rainbow or not at least it seems like we should have a shove range OTT. If not, why not.

Arguments for are vulnerable nut hands, lots of high equity low exsdv (uncallable vs river shove) potential bluffs, lots of high equity bluffs villain can barrel but cannot call.
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07-18-2014 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fityfmi
call and play turn ip

does this change if there is a flush draw on the flop (that you dont have?)


also are you calling flop, calling turn, and shoving a bunch of rivers if you miss and are checked too?

lets say the turn is a 5x he bets we call. river is a 7. what is your play?
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07-18-2014 , 10:59 AM
Yes, if i call twice with KT here on QJ3r57, I'm shoving when checked to. Shoving KQ+ otr should allow us to get away with allways bluffing with KT and T9 if we brick. Also, I would still just call on the flop, even if there was a flushdraw.
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07-18-2014 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem1848
On A,K,T,9 whether rainbow or not at least it seems like we should have a shove range OTT. If not, why not.
Can you post a range that should shove on the turn then? You need to estimate if the EV of shoving is higher than calling with these hands. Also, you need to make sure that you don't weaken your calling range too much.
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07-18-2014 , 11:29 AM
why are we shoving KQ on the river when checked to after calling the flop and turn in this 3 bet pot
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07-19-2014 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by shade1185
why are we shoving KQ on the river when checked to after calling the flop and turn in this 3 bet pot
yea cant be good unless he played earlier streets bad
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07-19-2014 , 11:43 AM
Because he can have a lot of worse Qx and Jx and you need to balance your bluffs with value bets. It's also a hand you can check back depending on your opponent.

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07-19-2014 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FeelingBlue
Jx
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07-19-2014 , 12:16 PM
It's nl25 you can't expect people to have optimal betting ranges

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07-19-2014 , 12:18 PM
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07-19-2014 , 12:29 PM
Mad?

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07-19-2014 , 12:33 PM
wasn't sarcastic
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07-19-2014 , 08:23 PM
Rei is secretly superstitious and hates when people bet Jx on any board. This is why you you should raise him all in on any JJx board he bets.

He also has fantasies about horses, so stick a naked horse in your avatar and you're sure to win.

(@OP calling is a fine play. If he starts to c bet 100% of the time later you can always then start opening up your raising range. Calling is the best play I think at these low stakes because people tend to barrel off air with a very high frequency in 3 bet pots so when you do hit you get their whole stack just by calling down - you can consider raising weaker hands like gutshots instead to get them to fold out air).
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07-20-2014 , 01:17 AM
you didn't even get the Jx thing. stop making a fool out of yourself.
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07-20-2014 , 04:22 AM
HI .
Can you please tell where do you play nl25 hu ?
thx
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