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08-19-2014 , 04:21 AM

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Lazaro

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Originally Posted by Gio555

IF ITS WRONG TELL HIM WHATS RIGHT THEN FFS

I don't know what you want us to say here. If you want us to use this "concept" and slap an equity cutoff % its:

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08-19-2014 , 04:44 AM

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Gio555

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Rei , what I said to the guy was a place to start, a point to start thinking about things from, its obv theres more to it that what I said...

Are you telling me that the point where Op is at now (wondering if he can call profitably with K-8s), if he decided to call 3bets with a range that had 40% equity vs villains 3betting range he'd be worse off? or do you think calling with 40% equity is -ev in a vacum?

Im not buying that last part either, its lazy as F*** , sry man but it is

also, trying to wriggle out of what I said / id be worse off haha......be difficult when I don't really pay much mind to what you say, oh great keyboard warrior

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08-19-2014 , 04:48 AM

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Gio555

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Originally Posted by Lazaro

I don't know what you want us to say here. If you want us to use this "concept" and slap an equity cutoff % its:

Tell you what I want you to say......tell OP how he shud be approaching his problem, as that the only reason you shud even be in this thread

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08-19-2014 , 05:36 AM

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Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by Gio555

Rei , what I said to the guy was a place to start, a point to start thinking about things from

Cool, dude, but it was wrong.

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its obv theres more to it that what I said...

Yes, like things that aren't wrong.

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Originally Posted by Gio555

Are you telling me that the point where Op is at now (wondering if he can call profitably with K-8s), if he decided to call 3bets with a range that had 40% equity vs villains 3betting range he'd be worse off?

What I told you is that you were wrong.

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08-19-2014 , 05:45 AM

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Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by Gio555

Tell you what I want you to say......tell OP how he shud be approaching his problem, as that the only reason you shud even be in this thread

Ahh, the old "my stinky garbage should be immune to criticism unless the potential critics are willing to invest even more time/energy offering up something better" tack. Yeah, no.

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08-19-2014 , 05:48 AM

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Gio555

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Go out and talk to some girls Rei, b4 its too late dude....or carry on trying to make your sock pregnant, its upto you fella

* pls don't say thats wrong either, as you will lose all credibility , trust me

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08-19-2014 , 05:56 AM

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Rei Ayanami

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You should have conceded sooner, "fella", but better late than never.

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08-19-2014 , 06:02 AM

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Gio555

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haha that made me lol, but least you didn't try to say I was wrong

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08-19-2014 , 08:38 PM

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Apoccd10I

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Originally Posted by Gio555

rei is not lesbian lol... she's a great poker player (i've played her so appreciate her strategy posts or stfu) and you would be her submissive slave irl you little peanut

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08-20-2014 , 01:52 AM

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Gio555

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Tbh m8 I think the point of the "banter " with Rei wasn't for any purpose other than for OP to get something meaningfull / helpfull to take from the thread...I think that's pretty apparent?

Also apparent was a guy on the first page asking "well if he's wrong, how do we approach this spot" to which there was still been no reply.

APO, im surprised you played her tbh, was the sit out btn broken ?

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08-20-2014 , 07:48 AM

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Kristalle

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08-21-2014 , 01:17 AM

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dodgybob

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Originally Posted by Apoccd10I

rei is not lesbian lol... she's a great poker player (i've played her so appreciate her strategy posts or stfu) and you would be her submissive slave irl you little peanut

How do I sign up?

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08-21-2014 , 07:05 AM

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Gio555

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if she sacks me the jobs yours Bob

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08-21-2014 , 11:25 AM

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JudgeHoldem1848

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Originally Posted by Lazaro

I don't know what you want us to say here. If you want us to use this "concept" and slap an equity cutoff % its:

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Originally Posted by GIO1234

about equity's he be more knowledgeable then he was

I 8nt no who be right up in here but dis sht sho funny as a muh****a.

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08-27-2014 , 04:17 PM

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lnternet

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I fold K8s against 10% for a slightly above pot sized 3bet.

Around 12-14% I start 4betting it.
Around 14-16% I start calling it.

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08-27-2014 , 04:33 PM

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+VLFBERH+T

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Originally Posted by lnternet

I fold K8s against 10% for a slightly above pot sized 3bet.

Around 12-14% I start 4betting it.
Around 14-16% I start calling it.

Jeez, that's incredibly precise numbers. Did you derive them mathematically ?

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08-30-2014 , 10:16 PM

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JudgeHoldem1848

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There are two problems with folding this hand. One is sample size although for three betting it becomes decreasingly important after 100 hands or so. The other is what is this guy's actual range? Folding K8s is a tremendous mistake vs almost anyone who is three betting anywhere near a well constructed range. Sure, at some point calling becomes a mistake but I would want a very strong read including hands that have been shown down in three bet pots to start folding it.

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