agreed i think any two here is fine to 3bet with.

Indy

Nice thread we have going here! I'll be checking out the vidoes and give some respons aswell somewhere tomorrow!

Note to everyone wanting to comment:
It would probably be more useful for u and me to comment on the videos directly ( i.e not looking at the comments in the thread before) so that ur ideas/thoughts would not be skewed one way or another by other peoples comments.


11th hand into vid1, straight forward easy question.

Ive raised 3/4 of my buttons, 3bet 1/3 of villains raises. Villain hasnt 3bet me yet. No history/reads etc. up to this point.

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HAND #11
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Poker Stars, $5 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,660
BB: 1,340

Pre-Flop: (30) 9 A dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to 60, BB raises to 180, Hero ?

I feel i should be folding here. Is it too weak or standard ?

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HAND #16
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Poker Stars, $5 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): 1,560
SB: 1,440

Pre-Flop: (30) 8 7 dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to 60, Hero calls 40

Flop: (120) 4 2 7 (2 Players)

Whats my best play here? Should i c/c ? c/r ?

Hand from Vid 2:

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HAND #24
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Poker Stars, $5 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: 1,320
Hero (SB): 1,680

Pre-Flop: (30) 8 A dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40

Flop: (120) 4 5 Q (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB raises to 250, Hero raises to 1,620 and is All-In, BB calls 1,010 and is All-In

This is a common spot im up against, and i know its standard, i usually take this line almost every time. Is there a better way to play this?

Hand 11 - I'd normally call this but the more I'm thinking about it the more I lean towards fold.

Hand 16 - I'd check/raise. I think this is pretty standard since you will probably see a cbet.

Hand 24 - This is played perfectly IMO.

Hand 11 I fold unless I strongly suspect he is raising very light and I can bluff raise the flop a lot.

Hand 16 Fold preflop. C/raise is bad because he will shove a lot of draws here, I like c/c.

Hand 24 Standard.


Can someone tell me what xSCWx had in the 98o hand? Im dying to know.

Give me 10 mins, ill put his hands on a replayer and post the video.

I took a look at the HH's today, there was no way i couldve won the sng the way i played.

I limped too much, i lost hands that shouldve been over preflop, plus i think he ran a little bit above expectation in terms of getting decent hands and hitting flops.

come on we know he had TJ with a heart

Indy

xSCWx's Version of Vid 3 :

http://www.mediafire.com/?0vksn9mxzjj

The hand ur looking for is ~5mins.

xSCWx if u feel that its better for you that this vid isnt shown, tell me i'll remove it.

btw, in my vid i say that i liked ur raise size in my Qd9d hand when i donk bet, after looking at ur HH's i find it even sexier. lol.

cwar,if u watch this, dont try to look for timing tells, this is from a replayer

Just got through video 3. cwar owns this thread. General comments for phatjeffrey:

Don't limp K2o, 85o... just raise.
Think more about flop textures. The A7 hand at the beginning is a good cbet flop (fine for 2 barrels too). The K7 hand later is a check.
The 44 hand... I dunno... I don't limp/reraise, but I can see it. As played, please check the flop. For all intents and purposes, your hand is a lock, and villain is likely to lead turn.

Comments to game 3

- K2o [0:45] - I limp a hand like this aswell but mostly against opponents that is too loose and dosen't bet a lot post-flop. I probably would not limp it against a player like xSCWx.
- 85o [3:50]- I don't like your limp. I'd fold this instead or at the very least raise it.
- K9s [4:50] - You insta check and insta bet this hand aswell.. Nothing big but I just felt you could take 1-3 seconds extra before betting or checking. xSCWx might pick up on things if you tend to do this with strong hands (haven't seen the 2 previous ones so I wouldn't know)
- 76o [7:50]- Raise this rather than limp
- K6o [10:15]- I'm not really sure what to do differently but doing check/call while out of posistion with a bad kicker is not a dream situation for sure. The flop was pretty dry though so I guess it's alright here.
- K6o on 2Q2 flop [11:20] - I like the plan to call down here and I probably would have ended up playing it exactly like you did. But his turnbet is screaming valuebet, it's just so small. Wouldn't be surprised of many of the previous replies suggest to fold on the turn because of the bet size xSCWx does.
- Q9s [12:20] - I like your donkbet here considering you haven't done it yet. It is not the perfect flop to donkbet but it's not terrible either. I would make the bet size slightly bigger, like 120 into the 180 instead of 105.
- KJo [13:10] - Annoying spot here.. I was going to suggest you got it in here seing you would be left with 16x bb. But after poker stoving I'm not all that sure. If we give him a fairly decent range (this might be a lot wider or a lot tigher, I'm not really sure):
KJo vs 55+,A5s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,A5o+,K9o+ = 43,3% equity.. I'm surprised KJ seems to be in such a bad spot here. Question is if we should accept being 40% dog which isen't all that terrible? I'm not sure but I think I would probably lean slightly towards a fold if we expect xSCWx to have somewhat near the range I assigned him on which is certainly up for discussion wether that's a realistic range or not. Fold and hope we can get the money in being at least a coinflip instead?
- 44 on 3Q4 [14:00] - I dislike your c-bet here. I would much rather either check (possible 2 streets hoping he catches a little something) or bet something less suspecious. I'd probably only bet so small against weak/bluffy players because I expect them to be more prone to take the bait.. but I probably wouldn't expect a guy like xSCWx to fall for it. If you had bet like 100 into the 150 I think he would shove over your bet much more often than against the 60 bet. This is just an assumption so I could be wrong obviously.
- 86o [16:30] - I'm not really sure if I like your limp here PF.. but lets go to the flop action! It is hard to make anything out of his bet.. He could bet smallish because he wants to be able to get away if you shove on him or he could be inducing a call or shove from you.. Either way I don't really like your push because I doubt you can remove him from anything other than a 6.. well perhaps a weak ace I guess. There is a decent chance he has nothing aswell but still..
My thinking is that if you let go of the KJ hand earlier you would surely have done it to find a better spot.. I just don't feel this is a particularly better spot for you to be honest.

"This is probably the worst commentary on a video ever" haha that made me laugh ^^ Well since it's for free I shall choose to forgive you! Nah it's not all that bad phatjeffrey although you should turn up for the mic a bit, I had to turn up the volume a lot to really hear you.

Anyway you know me and what stakes I play so don't take my advices for more than they are worth! Gonna end now and read the other comments to see if I'm far off!

/Cheers - Kalledrengen

Too late to edit my post it seems.. Anyway I misread the pot size in the comments on K6o on the 2Q2 flop so you can ignore the last part of that comment

Just saw xSCWx had Q8 for top two on the flop in the 98o hand, I think I would c/raise that turn or bet 350, 450 is way too big and cuts your value a lot IMO. C/raise makes the most sense against jeffrey tho IMO bc if you check its super likely he will bet his flush draws on the scare card K when it looks like you have given up and the stack sizes are such that he will be committed if he bets.

Wow some quality replies in this thread, finally got to read them all through.. Well played gentlemen!

Cwar I have a few questions if you don't mind.

Flop 1: On a 3 J 6 4 - you say it is a good board to double barral (the A7 hand).
What are the reason this is a good double barral board?
The reason I assume is because the turn card does not improve any likely hand he could have. But knowing the board is so dry he is probably not calling the flop with any draw so we have to assume some J or 6 pair along with some PP is his most likely holdings right? Then by double barral we get rid of any weak J and most 6's.. Is this correct thinking?

Flop 2: On a 3 5 K 9 - board you said xSCWx is NOT double barreling so he should fold the turn with K6.

Wouldn't this flop be ideal for xSCWx to double barral aswell? I don't recommend a call here by any means, it's not what the question is about either.. I'm confused why you do not believe xSCWx would double barral this dry board aswell as jeffrey could double barral A high on the previous flop

Flop 1 is a good flop to double barrel because there are a lot of cards I *would* double barrel, I would not be double barreling this particular turn.

Flop 2 nothing has changed in the board dynamic really so xSCWx has a strong hand here mostly.

I like to double barrel where cards change the board dynamics a lot not cards that dont change anything.

I take considerable offense that you even come into the LC thread and say that I give bad advice and refer to this hand. The main basis of all that you quoted is as follows:

If you call on one street with the intention of folding on a later street, you have a huge hole in your game.

Thus the reason that I say shove or fold (I prefer fold).

Please try to take what I say in context next time, coach. FWIW, I find it disturbing that this didn't pop out at you.

Thats completely wrong. I have no idea what the rest of your post meant, what did I take out of context?

What? This isn't even up for debate.

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What are you talking about?

very nice thread ! bump.

bump for solid content

watchin 2 and 3 now, will then comment. ty for this, it can only be good for my (or anyones) game to watch this

Great videos and even better analysis! Keep the videos coming.

I know its old post but maybe someone have videos and can upload them? Thanks

sick bump. these were good vids, but fwiw, there's a lot of other free material out there, and husng strategy has come a very long way in the last 5 years, so i wouldn't stress too much if you can't find these.

understand, but changes was the main reason of my interest how games looks like few years ago...

however apologize for bump