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07-19-2009 , 09:48 PM
Hey guys...

Just thought I'd post this hand, I guess maybe it's really standard but I'd like to check, if anyone could find the time to reply I'd appreciate it

Reads...my notes say UTG seems limp/calls quite a bit with garbage hands and also plays low-mid PPs this way sometimes. SB I don't have any specific history/reads on. Just looks like a fairly typical (not very good) 20NL player from the few hands I've played with him.

Stacks:
UTG ($14.74)
CO ($19.67)
Hero (BTN) ($21.35)
SB ($20.08)
BB ($57.29)

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 5 players) Hero is BTN Q K
UTG calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.84, SB calls $0.74, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.64

Flop: Q K A ($2.72, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $1.36, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $9, UTG folds, Hero folds?


Cheers...

I think this is straightforward fold, but I think that quite often in threads and then am surprised to see people advocating otherwise. So thought I'd check up on one kinda random hand...
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07-19-2009 , 09:53 PM
meh id prolly fold here. we wont have a set often but he will have hands like JT and AQ. his cold 3bet on the flop screams strength and bottom 2 pair just isnt doing well against that range
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07-19-2009 , 10:27 PM
i prefer just a call on the flop, raising only gets you to tango with better hands
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07-19-2009 , 10:57 PM
I don't think I can flat a half-pot bet here with SB still left to act. I'd rather find out where I am on the flop before things get weird since there are obviously a lot of cards I don't want to see on latter streets.
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07-19-2009 , 11:04 PM
finding out where you are isn't a good reason to bet... raise for value or to bluff. you can't do either with this hand

that said i didn't see he bet half pot, maybe you can raise for value if he is the kind of guy to do this with Ax or to see a cheap card with a flush draw.

if you do raise and he 3bets you are def folding, i think you're right and your friends are wrong about that
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07-19-2009 , 11:07 PM
its fold or shove, dont call half your stack, then fold. just transfer the guy money and get to the next hand faster
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