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09-22-2014 , 07:56 PM
So I challenged some pretty big fish hu4rollz, I'm a 6max 10nl player and have a little hu knowledge but still a noob overall.

obviously this hand is just unlucky but Im wondering if you 50nl hu players would have called the river here.

so I dont know much about this players hu game but hes a 40/20 6max player, fairly passive postflop but after a couple of hands into this hu game you could tell he was trying to be agro. He picks terrible spots to bluff and usually 4bets the very top of his range, I thought he couldve called with a low pp and was trapping but I know he capable of making these sort of bluffs (possibly with a missed fd) so what do you guys think, tptk good here?
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09-22-2014 , 08:11 PM
definitely wouldn't have called
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09-23-2014 , 08:28 AM
raise the turn if you wanna be balanced
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09-23-2014 , 08:37 AM
That's the toughest hand I ever came across. I'm incapable of giving any advice.
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09-23-2014 , 10:41 AM
some next level **** right here
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09-23-2014 , 11:23 AM
wheres the hand?
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09-23-2014 , 11:31 AM
tptk is (probably) good enough to call with in a 3bet pot when the fd misses, although technically you are (probably) bluffcatching. search this subforum for more info on this topic. \thread
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09-23-2014 , 12:04 PM
idk what happened to the hand





    Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30971711

    SB: $104.45 (208.9 bb)
    Hero (BB): $108.60 (217.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 A
    SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $3.50

    Flop: ($10) 2 4 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7.25, SB calls $7.25

    Turn: ($24.50) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $17.75, SB calls $17.75

    River: ($60) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets $69, Hero calls $69

    Spoiler:
    Results: $198 pot ($0.50 rake)
    Final Board: 2 4 9 7 7
    SB showed 5 7 and won $197.50 ($98.50 net)
    Hero mucked 9 A and lost (-$99 net)



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    here it is
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    09-23-2014 , 12:07 PM
    flat pre, as played you have some other options here and there but overall looks fine

    Last edited by samooth; 09-23-2014 at 12:10 PM. Reason: lol @ 57o
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    09-23-2014 , 12:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samooth
    flat pre, as played you have some other options here and there but overall looks fine
    idk im not a hu player but isnt it standard to 3bet a hand like a9? vs a frequent opener that is hes opening like 70% of his range too. I'd flat with hands like a7 down to ace 2 but I'd usually 3bet a8+ and a4/5s +

    edit* vs this player after playing a few hands hu its probably best to only 3bet for value cause he's rarely folding so you may be right
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    09-23-2014 , 12:18 PM
    well if he's defending 57o vs a 3bet (which i did not see before replying) then i guess you can 3bet A9o. but i certainly would not consider it standard vs a competent opponent, although it's certainly close vs a lot of strats. think about the downside of 3betting A9o, both in terms of how the hand plays out when you 3bet (and get called/4bet), and the fact that you may want enough Ax combos in your flatting range as well.

    btw opening 70% of btns isn't a lot.
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    09-23-2014 , 12:21 PM
    For how terrible the OP was, the hand is actually wp.
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    09-23-2014 , 12:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samooth
    well if he's defending 57o vs a 3bet (which i did not see before replying) then i guess you can 3bet A9o. but i certainly would not consider it standard vs a competent opponent, although it's certainly close vs a lot of strats. think about the downside of 3betting A9o, both in terms of how the hand plays out when you 3bet (and get called/4bet), and the fact that you may want enough Ax combos in your flatting range as well.

    btw opening 70% of btns isn't a lot.
    yea im not going to argue lol the only hu experience I have was reading a little about it time ago and playing some hu sng's back in the day. I usually wouldn't even play this was just an exception
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    09-23-2014 , 12:35 PM
    seems like it was an +EV match for you anyhow, ul
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    09-23-2014 , 12:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samooth
    seems like it was an +EV match for you anyhow, ul
    yea I still wuldn't have done it usually it was just for the challenge I'm doing
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    09-24-2014 , 05:56 AM
    hand was WP - very unlucky. I guess you could fold river vs a really passive guy but that was gross
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    09-24-2014 , 07:19 PM
    here's the real question: what did your gut tell you?
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    09-24-2014 , 07:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jungleman
    here's the real question: what did your gut tell you?
    lmaoo
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    09-25-2014 , 08:22 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jungleman
    here's the real question: what did your gut tell you?
    classic words from the beast here, always goes with his gut, classic!
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    09-26-2014 , 09:27 AM
    Samooth/Rei, thoughts on betting the river here?

    It seems a fairly decent river to fire three streets on with a bluff I imagine because we still rep all the big pairs easily, and puts villain in a spot where he has to basically guess if we have it or not. One might argue that A9 is too low in our range to bet this riv and that it's better to treat it as a bluff catcher, but I think we can get away with a small bet here (1/3-1/2 pot) with plans to call a shove. As for our river c/c range, we can still have hands like K9s, Q9s, J9s, T9s, and 98s.
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    09-26-2014 , 01:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Morphine8X
    Samooth/Rei, thoughts on betting the river here?

    It seems a fairly decent river to fire three streets on with a bluff I imagine because we still rep all the big pairs easily, and puts villain in a spot where he has to basically guess if we have it or not. One might argue that A9 is too low in our range to bet this riv and that it's better to treat it as a bluff catcher, but I think we can get away with a small bet here (1/3-1/2 pot) with plans to call a shove. As for our river c/c range, we can still have hands like K9s, Q9s, J9s, T9s, and 98s.
    i couldve prob jammed the riv as a way to merge my ranges against a more competent player and I think that wouldve possibly been a good play, but the only hands that we could MAYBE bluff out are tt or jj so prob not even worth it, I think that x/c the riv is prob the best play 90% of the time but you know its hu and thats not my field so idk
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    09-26-2014 , 02:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KillDurrrr
    i couldve prob jammed the riv as a way to merge my ranges against a more competent player and I think that wouldve possibly been a good play, but the only hands that we could MAYBE bluff out are tt or jj so prob not even worth it, I think that x/c the riv is prob the best play 90% of the time but you know its hu and thats not my field so idk
    here's your 1st lesson:
    dont you these two words as a combination: "merged" and "range".
    one more lesson to get you really going:
    1st rule also applies to words "TPTK" and "bluff".
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    09-26-2014 , 02:18 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Morphine8X
    but I think we can get away with a small bet here (1/3-1/2 pot) with plans to call a shove.
    $20/call should work very well exploitatively.
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    09-26-2014 , 03:02 PM
    im fine with a small bet too, but i wouldn't jam riv vs most. you need to realize the difference in EV b/w jamming, say AA and A9 here, even if we can eliminate any overpair froms sb's range.
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    09-26-2014 , 07:27 PM
    raise river
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