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Old 01-10-2012, 08:14 PM   #45586
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Re: ****HU CASH REGS POKER TALK ONLY THREAD****

Here's a random general heads up poker thing, hand history is made up, just a standard spot.

Hand very early in match vs reg, no reads or stats yet


    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11623192

    Hero (BB): $201 (100.5 bb)
    SB: $244 (122 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 A
    SB raises to $4, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($4) 8 6 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB checks

    Turn: ($8) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks or bets???



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:21 PM   #45587
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    I would probably check/call.
    I expect him to bet all his valuehands on the flop and this seems like a flop he could give up on, but if we check twice a lot of people will put in a small bet to get us off our air.
    Once we call turn I don't expect him to bluff again.

    Bet turn and bet river is fine against some villians but it's not my default.
    I rather get to showdown a couple of times before I make that adjustment.

    (After 140 hands you should know more than enough,by the time you have his steal/bbvip/3bet etc etc you should also know enough to make some adjustments.)
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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:25 PM   #45588
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    Awesome, thanks.
    A lot easier than I thought.

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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:36 PM   #45589
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    Re: ****HU CASH REGS POKER TALK ONLY THREAD****

    Okay fair enough about the hand sample thing. 140 is a fair amount, I guess we should have solid reads.

    I'll change it to readless. Really wondering what a good default plan is here vs a reg.
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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:39 PM   #45590
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    Re: ****LOW CONTENT Chat thread****

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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:41 PM   #45591
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    easymoney some solid movies:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242422/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0404390/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0914863/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105236/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120735/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475394/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208092/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124901/

    thank me later:P

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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:43 PM   #45592
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    ^
    I've seen all of them and they are good, probably gonna see most of them again in a close future.
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    Old 01-10-2012, 08:51 PM   #45593
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    Re: ****LOW CONTENT Chat thread****

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    Source code is decent.
    Really? I thought it sucked hard.

    Spoiler:


    It got good reviews though so its probably just me. I also didn't like drive, and nobody I've talked to in person did either but overall it seems to be pretty popular.
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    Old 01-10-2012, 09:05 PM   #45594
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    Source code was rly nice imo. I have a cinema subscription and compared to the **** they show normally Source Code and Drive are just top notch movies.
    The last one I saw and kinda liked was 50/50.
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    Old 01-10-2012, 09:55 PM   #45595
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    Okay fair enough about the hand sample thing. 140 is a fair amount, I guess we should have solid reads.

    I'll change it to readless. Really wondering what a good default plan is here vs a reg.
    Definitely bet, once he checks back the flop we're always behind. I like bet/bet, expecting to get called 90%+ on the turn and to fold 90% of his unimproved range on the river.

    Regs will sometimes give up with air as a general strategy when the flop hits a tight PF bb defending range, such as on KT3r.

    This flop however doesn't hit a bb defending range hard enough to not justify a cbet with air, so I expect to see 6x, 8x, 77/55-33/22 and A highs 90% of the time, all of which will call once and fold river.

    I think people cbet much lighter for value/protection on wet boards, not this kind of board.
    Here to me, a check back on the flop screams of pot control wanting to get to SD.

    A common mistake in these spots if to think we have SD value when in fact we're almost never good.

    So yeah..best line vs a reg readless is bet/bet with shutdown on pairing board, imo.

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    Old 01-10-2012, 10:02 PM   #45596
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    Also, great idea TC.
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    Old 01-10-2012, 11:13 PM   #45597
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    Re: ****HU CASH REGS POKER TALK ONLY THREAD****

    Anyone else having trouble importing hands using Pokertracker??

    Hands are importing as usual on Partypoker...

    Never had this problem before, it is only with PokerStars... which I just downloaded new software


    Tried using Mac & PC they import about 2 hands and then stop.......
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    Old 01-11-2012, 02:27 AM   #45598
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    Re: ****LOW CONTENT Chat thread****

    I miss the old thread. Nothing like the occasional poker talk during low content jibberish.


    EDIT: Also, Source Code sucks. Can't even remember whether I finished it or not.

    My recommendation:

    Ajeossi or "The man from nowhere"


    Seriously, watch it.

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    Old 01-11-2012, 02:39 AM   #45599
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    Re: ****LOW CONTENT Chat thread****

    Starting a whole new thread just so you could be the OP seems a little selfish TC. Just sayin
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    Old 01-11-2012, 02:42 AM   #45600
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    Re: ****HU CASH REGS POKER TALK ONLY THREAD****

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    I would probably check/call.
    I expect him to bet all his valuehands on the flop and this seems like a flop he could give up on, but if we check twice a lot of people will put in a small bet to get us off our air.
    Once we call turn I don't expect him to bluff again.

    Bet turn and bet river is fine against some villians but it's not my default.
    I rather get to showdown a couple of times before I make that adjustment.

    (After 140 hands you should know more than enough,by the time you have his steal/bbvip/3bet etc etc you should also know enough to make some adjustments.)
    Checkcall? I think I never checkcall in this spot with Ace high. I either bet/bet because I agree he should bet most of his value on the flop, or just check and hope to get to showdown.

    I also think if he had complete air he would have just bet this flop, in stead of the 2 turn. And if we had complete air, we would've probably bet the turn ourselves (+ that's also what we do with our valuehands). So when we do check we're basically saying we've got a hand with somewhat showdown value but it's not good enough for a valuebet (or calling 2 streets).

    If I'm villain I'm betting almost all my pairs (in position) on the turn for value out of Ace high, underpairs and draws. As well as some checked behind weak Qx.
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