*******HU CASH Regs thread******* - Page 2171 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Alot of regs gave back to teh community though via coaching, videos, staking, etc which created this whole situation in teh first place so i dare you to criticize those regs
#couldvedonemoar

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02-10-2016 , 11:18 AM

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PureDiesel

Raw Power

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,930

Dude, I've been a coach myself and posting alot in strats. Go back to your cave, I've never seen you post here and don't start it. Obviously, I meant 99.9% of regs, not those who did put something in poker for its sake.

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02-10-2016 , 01:03 PM

#54253

DroneTheHustler

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 84

I hope kvitun moves to the same sites I'll play now

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02-10-2016 , 01:07 PM

#54254

jamjam

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 312

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Originally Posted by PureDiesel

I'm sooo done.

Best news ever

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02-10-2016 , 01:07 PM

#54255

jamjam

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 312

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Originally Posted by PureDiesel

Dude, I've been a coach myself

Funniest news ever

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02-10-2016 , 01:42 PM

#54256

PureDiesel

Raw Power

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,930

^^Given how badly I owned you last time, you need a coach

I'd give you a discount, unfortunately it's impossible to teach you anything good.

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02-10-2016 , 05:53 PM

#54257

PureDiesel

Raw Power

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,930

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This change is part of our commitment to reducing predatory behaviour and improving the recreational player experience.

This is the most hypocrite statement made by Stars. Stars themselves is a biggest predator on human wants.

Go turn into lotto-bingo-casino-Stars-busto-land! Hope you get wrecked in the a$$ end very hard.

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02-10-2016 , 06:13 PM

#54258

OMG_IM_SEXY

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 91

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Originally Posted by DroneTheHustler

I hope kvitun moves to the same sites I'll play now

that actually made me lol out loud

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02-10-2016 , 06:57 PM

#54259

PureDiesel

Raw Power

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,930

NMHU-ETIG (no money heads up - every table is gone)

One more bad news: 8x Mr.Olympia Ronnie Coleman broke his back while squatting 800lbs:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBk779zGGS-/

Last edited by PureDiesel; 02-10-2016 at 07:02 PM.

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02-10-2016 , 08:22 PM

#54260

PureDiesel

Raw Power

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,930

RIP STARS

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02-10-2016 , 10:55 PM

#54261

Man ag City

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 566

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Originally Posted by Jamsym2

I just posted this in the NVG thread so ill crosspost it here too:

I think people are greatly under estimating the precedent this sets for the future of online poker. It's not just about HeadsUp.

The ideal situation for Stars is that for every $1 deposited by a net losing player stars rakes $1. They are working on building an ecosystem where by all games are essentially unbeatable and are just another form of casino game such as blackjack. They already have unbeatable games spread at micro-low PLO, then they removed all rakeback for $5/10+, now they are trying to reduce edges in HU games.

What will happen with HU zoom is when a rec player sits the games will fill with enough regs who have an edge. So the 1 rec might sustain another 5 pros who all have to play vs each other. This dramitically decreases pros winrates. Next once they have a sample of the top winners at each limit of HU Zoom they wil most likely increase rake enough to nullify that edge. Thus rendering the game unbeatable and ensuring stars gets all the net losers money in rake.

Now some people such as 6 max regs might think this is a good change because your games will be fishier. However once they have finished with HU they will start on other games aswell. I'd imagine all ring games will go to zoom eventually since it eliminates seat scripting and 'predatory behaviour.' This will lower the 6 max edges even more and all they have to do then is to check a sample size of the last 500k hands at 6 max, find out the top 10% of regs are winning at say 5bb/100, increase rake to nullify that edge and voila, another unbeatable game where all deposits go to Stars.

Then for Mtts, im sure stars arent happy that a lot of people are taking milions out of the economy by being longterm profitable in these. They want the fish money for themselves! I'd imagine we will see a transition towards higher variance,jackpots,shallower stacks and faster structures. If that doesnt get the edge of the top winners down from say 20% roi to 1% then they can always just bump the rake up a touch for good measure.

I realise some of this may seem dramatic but this is the direction everything is heading currently. Stars have to show the shareholders how they can increase profitability constantly. This wont be the last change, the same as the VIP moneygrab wasn't.

This is why all players should be against these changes. If you're not then your game will probably be next.

Well thought out and explained!

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02-11-2016 , 12:21 AM

#54262

woolly

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,107

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Originally Posted by PureDiesel

he's some sh***y FR bumhunter that has been bouncing around 50 and 100nl the past year or two. not sure why he's posting in the HU forum since he won't even post blinds vs a fish

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02-11-2016 , 02:55 AM

#54263

Mejis

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,052

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=195

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Originally Posted by fityfmi

I believe that instead of sitting here complainging to eachother, or organizing strikes to try to revert the changes, we should accept that Heads Up No Limit, from now on, will be zoom only. Pokerstars aren`t going to back down here. We should rather focus on steering Pokerstars in the right direction, and not only have them remove the regular tables, and do nothing else. The main additional change I`m asking for is to cap the max entries a player can have in the pool to 2.

This.
Try sending stars a mail requesting the cap to be lowered, imo it's the only way zoom will ever run properly.

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02-11-2016 , 03:20 AM

#54264

lvanhoe

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,383

good for ecosystem yes

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02-11-2016 , 06:23 AM

#54265

d0zer

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 535

the funniest thing will be actually the transitioning period when all the bumhunters try to desperately keep it going by jumping into the zoom pools, where after x amount of time they will inevitably realize that they were terrible the entire time and get smashed

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02-11-2016 , 08:49 AM

#54266

BiggerBoots

adept

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 739

Most bumhunters have 10 sites, this is a bigger deal for you than them.

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02-11-2016 , 09:08 AM

#54267

lvanhoe

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,383

but the lobby looks cleaner

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02-11-2016 , 09:38 AM

#54268

deathorglory0

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,462

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Originally Posted by d0zer

x<1000 hands

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02-11-2016 , 11:01 AM

#54269

chasern1

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,223

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Originally Posted by Mejis

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=195

This.
Try sending stars a mail requesting the cap to be lowered, imo it's the only way zoom will ever run properly.

Meh, this is a waste of time, you can't steer Stars into doing anything...
Remember when people were writing mails for 2 years about introducing KOTH or to add the +table feature at KOTH?

HU Zoom without reg. tables is just awful for everyone besides the Top 0.5%.

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02-11-2016 , 11:24 AM

#54270

aXXit

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 145

i know everyone wants to make secrets about what other sites he will play. but maybe you can say some sites where HU above 50nl is still possible.
just playing on austrian official pokerprovider and think i should add some others. thx