*******HU CASH Regs thread*******

[chasern1]

Originally Posted by fattony7891

The new bill just seems so dumb, I wonder what the games on FTP/Stars will be like though, cos although their will be a drop off in fish, if there is a greater drop of in regs then the games on those sites will actually become better than they were. Could turn out really good in the end.

not sure about this.
The lost of the US player base will have a huge impact on the games, it might be slightly better the first 2 months,but there are still a lot of pretty good euro players left and there are not as many euro/russia fish to compensate the us fish.
The games will eventually dry out after 6-8 months and it will look similar to pokerstars.fr (probably slightly better) where you habe 3-4 NL400 6max tables,1 NL1k and no HU tables running.

[Kwantum]

Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn

im posting this out of sheer desperation... As you guys know i upgraded to windows seven but lost my HEM manager in the process. I went awhile not using it, did well for the most part but there are tons of spots where i cant keep track of 4 different people playing HU/six max. I figured out how to connect to PosTquel (i know its spelled wrong) but i cant get the pop up stats or the hud stuff to work. If anyone can help me out via skype, aim, or teamviewer and help me set this up because im tech retarded i would appreciate it a lot. Im willing to exchange sweat sessions or provide some other type of compensation if anyone who helps me wants it. PM me.

http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...ck+Start+Guide

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hud-...tml#post191454

It sounds like HEM isn't finding your hand histories correctly.

I don't use Win7, but pretty sure holdemmanager.exe, hmhud.exe, and dbcontrolpanel.exe have to be run as Administrator.

I'd create an account over at the HEM forums if you need more help, support is pretty decent.

[Kwantum]

Originally Posted by chasern1

not sure about this.
The lost of the US player base will have a huge impact on the games, it might be slightly better the first 2 months,but there are still a lot of pretty good euro players left and there are not as many euro/russia fish to compensate the us fish.
The games will eventually dry out after 6-8 months and it will look similar to pokerstars.fr (probably slightly better) where you habe 3-4 NL400 6max tables,1 NL1k and no HU tables running.

My understanding is that international players will be allowed to play on licensed U.S. sites, after a waiting period (longer than the 15 month blackout). It could be awhile, but from what I read, there are plans to allow international traffic.

There's also rumors from Gary Wise (ESPN/PokerStatic) that a new draft of the bill will be released today and it could address the 15 month blackout period. It may or may not be shortened.

I'm in support of this bill if Stars and FTP are. They're businesses, and I don't think they'd back anything that would shrink their player bases in the long term.

The status quo sucks, and will only get worse now that UIGEA stuff is finally being enforced. And with the complexion of congress shifting back towards Republicans, I doubt we get another chance for years to pass something that could be long term "run good" for online poker. Reid owes Lederer and company and this is our shot.

[dwmartin]

I don't think the US sites post-blackout would be US only. There's no legal reason to deny traffic to foreigners. It would just be more money for the sites with no downside. If US players were only allowed on these sites then maybe other countries would prevent their citizens from playing on the US sites in retaliation, I guess, but that seems unlikely.

[WutRUTryin2Hit]

Originally Posted by fattony7891

bump, I presume it was passed over cos its a lol obv shove, but just wnat confirmation. I dont think hes raising draws here though ever and my equity vs his range is pretty bad.


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The new bill just seems so dumb, I wonder what the games on FTP/Stars will be like though, cos although their will be a drop off in fish, if there is a greater drop of in regs then the games on those sites will actually become better than they were. Could turn out really good in the end.

Judging by the amount of pros in the legislation forum that say they will move to Canada/Costa Rica/wherever to play if the blackout period happens, games will deteriorate badly. Guys who make tons of money online have tons of incentive to stay playing, fish will shrug and wait till they're allowed back on.

[Kwantum]

This site has been giving good updates on the situation.. here's a link to today's article:

http://www.parttimepoker.com/online-...tes-dec-6-2010

[WutRUTryin2Hit]

Originally Posted by dwmartin

I don't think the US sites post-blackout would be US only. There's no legal reason to deny traffic to foreigners. It would just be more money for the sites with no downside. If US players were only allowed on these sites then maybe other countries would prevent their citizens from playing on the US sites in retaliation, I guess, but that seems unlikely.

Main thread in legislation forum seems to suggest it's almost 100% the law will make all the new legit sites US players only. Easier to police for tax purposes, prosecute cheaters, whatever.

Not saying it makes sense or not, just saying that seems to be the bill.

[dwmartin]

Yeah, anything can happen, but it's definitely counter-intuitive. One of the best arguments for legalizing and regulating online poker is the revenue it would generate and allowing foreign players would only generate more revenue for the sites that the government would then be able to tax. Money usually trumps everything else, so I'd think that they wouldn't prevent themselves from making more, but who knows? The government does a lot of stupid things.

[EATITPAL]

Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

not saying youre wrong but lol why would that make any sense?

What do you mean?

Someone informed me that euros wouldnt be able to play on ftp/stars over the 15 month period of proposed blackout from poker or whatever.
I was answering the question, i know no more about it though so i didn't say anything else.

[LeprechaunFlute]

Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn

im posting this out of sheer desperation... As you guys know i upgraded to windows seven but lost my HEM manager in the process. I went awhile not using it, did well for the most part but there are tons of spots where i cant keep track of 4 different people playing HU/six max. I figured out how to connect to PosTquel (i know its spelled wrong) but i cant get the pop up stats or the hud stuff to work. If anyone can help me out via skype, aim, or teamviewer and help me set this up because im tech retarded i would appreciate it a lot. Im willing to exchange sweat sessions or provide some other type of compensation if anyone who helps me wants it. PM me.

I had the same problem and it had changed my import folder names and it started working as soon as I changed those again.

[entrncdrnr]

cliffs on legislation situation?

[exec771]

Originally Posted by fattony7891

What does the legislation bullsht mean for euros. FTP/PS will still stay open for business for euros right?

I doubt they'll shut down the sites completely for 15 months. So they have to be open to the rest of the world in the meantime..

[Krumb Snatcha]

Originally Posted by entrncdrnr

cliffs on legislation situation?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1512

[fjbourne]

I just posted this in the legislation forum, but I just got a tweet from espn_poker saying "blackout period that was rumored for FTP and PS is no longer part of the bill"

[Kwantum]

Originally Posted by fjbourne

I just posted this in the legislation forum, but I just got a tweet from espn_poker saying "blackout period that was rumored for FTP and PS is no longer part of the bill"

Awesome news. Now we just have to hope it gets attached to a bill that passes... one time!

Edit: Well, awesome news if it refers to the 15-month blackout period, there were some other blackout/waiting periods in the bill.