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06-04-2009 , 12:49 PM
i emailed them already obv
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06-04-2009 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by easycall
In a vacuum, you're friend is wrong.
why is that? I mean, if I'm too passive, not taking enough stabs at small pots for example that would affect my winrate negatively and also show up in my non-showdown winnings, right?

Also, your grammar is off.
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06-04-2009 , 01:50 PM
there are a lot of situational factors that influence your sd vs non sd winnings, not to mention personal styles which can both yield winning results.

you should know if you're too passive or not. From the look of that sample, it looks like you had some leaks early on, as your redline dropped hard, but then it balanced at more to where you were losing less frequently and at a slower rate. so perhaps you made some adjustments which helped your non sd winnings at least begin to break even.

preflop positional vpip influences sd vs non sd, just as how you play postflop in and out of position. If you are playing too often OOP, you're going to have a hard time winning in non-sd. If you 3bet a lot and give up too often in 3bet pots, it's going to suffer. If you don't 3bet enough and call too much you're giving up too much.

there's a lot of different factors.

but more important than your non sd vs sd winnings is how you are adjusting during the course of a match. if you're adjusting properly, and winning monies, you shouldn't really worry about your redline vs blue line but rather the decisions you are making and why it's working or not working.

there are guys that win all their money at non-sd and lose money at showdown. do you think they are better than you? it's really just non-sensical.

and i dont really care about my grammar. i try to type coherently enough.
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06-04-2009 , 02:18 PM
Thanks for that, good post. I have a follow-up question though: if you are one of those players that get more money from non-sd pots, aren't you effectively reducing variance? That's something i'd definitely be interested in and worth a playing style change.

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Originally Posted by easycall
and i dont really care about my grammar. i try to type coherently enough.
Nor should you be. I just thought calling you out would be the edgy thing to do as a non-native English speaker.
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06-04-2009 , 03:24 PM
the lobby looks significantly better.

it is a huge pain in the ass if youre trying to play plo, nlhe, and HA tables through multiple levels. pick and choose i guess.
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06-04-2009 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EarnestEager
Thanks for that, good post. I have a follow-up question though: if you are one of those players that get more money from non-sd pots, aren't you effectively reducing variance? That's something i'd definitely be interested in and worth a playing style change.



Nor should you be. I just thought calling you out would be the edgy thing to do as a non-native English speaker.
TBH I don't think I can talk with much backing behind what type is less variance. Most of the guys that I know, that win more at non sd than SD, play a tighter style HU (preflop). From in, and oop. I'd consider them much more taggy than laggy, if I could broadly apply labels. But then you have to go into postflop play. All of which is influenced by the type of player you typically play, and your basic approach at playing them. All of this can and normally should be adjusted during the course of a match.

I dont really like apply broad labels to hu play though.

I think a good thing for you to do would be to get a coach who can pay attention to your game 1v1 and really help you in that way. Talking thru a forum will only go so far.
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06-04-2009 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thatpfunk
the lobby looks significantly better.

it is a huge pain in the ass if youre trying to play plo, nlhe, and HA tables through multiple levels. pick and choose i guess.
still tons of people at >1 tables per limit
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06-04-2009 , 04:19 PM
do you think they'll implement the same policy on stars and the other sites? and how can they implement them?
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06-04-2009 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by glpmurray
do you think they'll implement the same policy on stars and the other sites? and how can they implement them?
stars still lets you sit out for days lol
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06-04-2009 , 04:25 PM
i don't rate that - it just clutters up the lobby... I think you should have a maximum sit out period of like 2 hours - any more they kick you off.
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06-04-2009 , 04:34 PM
2hours? lol. Should be like 10minutes
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06-04-2009 , 04:44 PM
1st hand

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 143726
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN/SB): $762.00
BB: $300.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BTN/SB with Q K
Hero raises to $18, BB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 6 A 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $18

Turn: ($108.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($108.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $66, Hero calls $66

Final Pot: $240.00
Hero shows Q K (a pair of Sixes)
BB shows K T (a pair of Sixes)
Hero wins $239.50
(Rake: $0.50)




cuz i'm a feel playaaaaaaa
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06-04-2009 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by easycall
TBH I don't think I can talk with much backing behind what type is less variance. Most of the guys that I know, that win more at non sd than SD, play a tighter style HU (preflop). From in, and oop. I'd consider them much more taggy than laggy, if I could broadly apply labels. But then you have to go into postflop play. All of which is influenced by the type of player you typically play, and your basic approach at playing them. All of this can and normally should be adjusted during the course of a match.

I dont really like apply broad labels to hu play though.

I think a good thing for you to do would be to get a coach who can pay attention to your game 1v1 and really help you in that way. Talking thru a forum will only go so far.
ok thanks for your help, i'll def look into getting a coach.
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06-04-2009 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by React1oN
2hours? lol. Should be like 10minutes
10minutes is generous
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06-04-2009 , 05:10 PM
Just played this guy and when I kept beating him he started to berate me and call me a fish. Please slowroll him any chance that you get.

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06-04-2009 , 05:15 PM
you're such a bad troll
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06-04-2009 , 06:09 PM
haha
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06-04-2009 , 07:51 PM
I have $899 on FTP I am trying to trade for $899 on PokerStars.

Please PM me if interested.
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06-04-2009 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rilum
Is there any way to filter results by how many tables you are playing in HEM? I really think my winrate drops alot when i multitable
There probably is a filter, but at the same time, if you feel that you might be giving up money by playing too many tables then you almost certainly are (and shouldn't really need to look at HEM to reaffirm that thought).

And I'm pretty sure winrate being inversely proportional to # of tables is characteristic of most players, unless of course you are the type to get epic FPS when you're only 1 tabling and just spew away money .
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06-05-2009 , 11:26 AM
I've just been researching variance and playing around with uDevil's poker results calculator:
http://www.castrovalva.com/~la/win.htm

Which I found through the video in this thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26...theory-490445/

Anyway, I was wondering what is everyone else's standard deviation? The video said between 40 and 60 is normal (for 6m I assume). For the last 126k hands, my standard deviation has been 82.57 big bets. Normal for HU?

To find your standard deviation in PT3 ( I needed the current Beta Update version 27.2), Go to the Session's Tab, Select "Sessions-Details" from the combo box at the top of the tab and the Standard Deviation is listed near the bottom.
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06-05-2009 , 02:19 PM
anyone know why 25/50 lobby has just 5players now? wsop?
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06-05-2009 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
anyone know why 25/50 lobby has just 5players now? wsop?
it always had just 5 players....now they are all just sitting at 1 tbl each instead of 6.

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06-05-2009 , 03:14 PM
it apparantly doesn't apply to Dmaradona, he's the only one sitting at more than 1 table at 25/50 atm.

also fk u hu poker, i swear every time i had 2pr/the effective nuts they either a) had the nuts or b) sucked out.
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06-05-2009 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanaw19
it apparantly doesn't apply to Dmaradona, he's the only one sitting at more than 1 table at 25/50 atm.

also fk u hu poker, i swear every time i had 2pr/the effective nuts they either a) had the nuts or b) sucked out.
obv
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06-05-2009 , 06:18 PM
Mmm...this is a very bloggy thing for me to post but seeing as how I don't have one, I decided to bear whatever flamers there are and post away. I know for me, it helps me keep my head up high when I write something like this after having a big losing or winning session. If some of you have tilt issues or if poker heavily affects your life, try writing out your thoughts and sharing it with people, I find it to be therapeutic and invigorating.



I played the best game of my life today and I lost! My gem of a hand and sadly the biggest pot I won: http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325859 This has most likely been the most frustrating match I’ve ever had to endure especially after losing. There was definitely a lot of frustration and anger but once it was over, within a minute I started laughing. If anyone else saw this happen, they’d probably think I had gone crazy. But, what made me laugh was when the thought “tough life” (thanks ben) entered my head. It’s 4 in the morning, I had just finished my tirade of curses, and I find the humor in it all. Someone on the poker forums wrote something along the lines of, the day you are able to afford losing 5-10k, that’s when you know you’ve made it. 3 years ago I could not fathom playing for a thousand dollars. I was excited over winning $50 pots! I was playing $1/2 limit hold’em where you can only bet increments of $2. Now I’m bluff shoving and calling for hundreds, and sometimes thousands like today. As I was laughing about it all, I realized my life is very good! I’m living abroad, supporting myself financially, and living my life on my own accord. I don’t have someone telling me what to do and how I should live my life (well my parents but you know what I mean). I am, in a sense, in control of my life.


I realize now I should have quit earlier, not because of nonsensical advice that amateurs give, “quit while you’re ahead,” but because I had lost focus. My head was hurting and I was no longer processing what was going on clearly. It’s today I’ve realized while I may have had an edge on my villain, it was nowhere near as big as the beginning when I was playing my A game. I was relying on pure instinct and that’s a mistake. It should be a combination of body and mind, oh well, it’s an $8,000 dollar lesson learned. I believe in pushing my edges when I know I’m better than villain, however this was a difficult and swingy match, not to mention it had the potential to get very deep, which it did. Without my A game, we were pretty much coin flipping on the outcome of it all.
I say it’s my best game I’ve ever played because I made so many good decisions, bluffs and hero calls, in the heat of the match. I think this game best displays my talent for not only heads up hold’em but for poker in general. Aside from the first hand of the match, which was pure gut, http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325755 , a lot of it was played out really well on my part. I’m sure there is a lot of room for improvement for how the overall match was played, but the hands that I played that got me trouble, I managed to successfully find solutions a very high % of the time. I demonstrated intelligence, fearlessness, and heart in this game. To me this match is my proof that I am getting very good. I haven’t demonstrated mastery but I have demonstrated versatility.


I can only hope my realizations today will make me grow even more as a player but also as a person. I’m still pretty surprised that I’m taking this so well. Maybe it’s the shock of it all but I can safely say I’m not unhappy. I’m actually more unhappy about the fact that it’s 6:42am and I’ve got no one to hang out with at this hour. I know if I work hard, I will continue to make more money. It’s really about keeping your head straight while you’re in the grind right? I’m so surprisingly optimistic for my next session I don’ t know why. I just hope that I never let this game beat me down and affect my life. I hope I continue on keeping up this kind of optimism. It feels great to be able to laugh off a session like today’s. Tomorrow, or today I should say, I get to see my friend, go to the movies, eat a ****ing good dinner, and have a great time. I can barely ask for anything more.

The trap
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325784

The hero call
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325792

The I got a pair of 9s what the hell do you have call
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325793

Because my ace high is probably no good here
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325798

I liked this hand a lot. My mind was racing as I was playing this one.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325800

The Trap part 2
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325803

The sadness
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4325805
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