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12-05-2011 , 07:33 PM
6max reg, quick question, whats an average/decent coldcall from BB in HU? thanks
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12-05-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Syndr0m
Justin Bieber is about to release a dubstep album
Wait wat?
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12-05-2011 , 09:39 PM
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6max reg, quick question, whats an average/decent coldcall from BB in HU? thanks
General question is general, but anywhere between 20-40% is probably ok as a general rule
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12-05-2011 , 10:46 PM
thx
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12-05-2011 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wee
**** yes! I have been dying for his Christmas dubstep album!
BTW. Someone pls recommend good dubstep album?!
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12-05-2011 , 11:08 PM
I'll add that you should adjust your defending range based on how many buttons villain opens, villain's open sizing, how deep stacks are, and how well villain plays postflop.
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12-05-2011 , 11:59 PM
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Check out the winrate confidence intervals on there, pretty cool
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Originally Posted by Lana_Lang
purediesel, what he showed with 0 winrate is that due to rungood/runbad you can still be a "12.38 bb/100 winner over 200k hands" because you have been running good. How can you fail to comprehend this? Im not saying it is your true winrate, but that you can actually be running at 12.38 bb/100 and still be a TRUE break-even player.
Lol, this is ridiculous, man. Is it a level? Fredron stated that I AM a break-even player. The probability/likelyhood of this is like less then 1%, that I'm break-even player with 12bb/100 over 200k hands. The same thing he could state for example. Lol, dude, you are 30bb/100 winner.

And given how bad i run, there's no way i'm break-even player. I discount that 1% chance. Case solved.
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12-06-2011 , 12:21 AM
i wasnt saying u are or arent anything, i was just saying the confidence interval tool was cool...
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12-06-2011 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDiesel
Lol, this is ridiculous, man. Is it a level? Fredron stated that I AM a break-even player. The probability/likelyhood of this is like less then 1%, that I'm break-even player with 12bb/100 over 200k hands. The same thing he could state for example. Lol, dude, you are 30bb/100 winner.

And given how bad i run, there's no way i'm break-even player. I discount that 1% chance. Case solved.
fredon was saying that tongue in cheek, the point was that you could potentially be a breakeven player but still be winning. obviously that's unlikely
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12-06-2011 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HeadsUpLoser
BTW. Someone pls recommend good dubstep album?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA0DQ...eature=related
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12-06-2011 , 04:16 AM
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fredon was saying that tongue in cheek, the point was that you could potentially be a breakeven player but still be winning. obviously that's unlikely
What's the point of even mentioning ~1% chance of it? This seems just like cheapest possible insult, while most of regs who sit at NL200 are not even making that WR, but i'm not going around and saying, lolol you are losing players on streak.
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12-06-2011 , 04:32 AM
damn i just caught up to this thread and I must say, anyone want a poker friend on skype? I've been seeking but haven't found the right person yet.
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12-06-2011 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDiesel
What's the point of even mentioning ~1% chance of it? This seems just like cheapest possible insult, while most of regs who sit at NL200 are not even making that WR, but i'm not going around and saying, lolol you are losing players on streak.
We're just saying its possible.... and that doesnt count just for you, but for nearly all of us here.
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12-06-2011 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDiesel
What's the point of even mentioning ~1% chance of it? This seems just like cheapest possible insult, while most of regs who sit at NL200 are not even making that WR, but i'm not going around and saying, lolol you are losing players on streak.
LOL IT WAS A JOKE THAT ALSO POINTED OUT HOW LAME YOU ARE TO CRY ABOUT 30K HANDS

im not sure if its the language barrier or you're just ******ed, but god damn you can be an idiot sometimes
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12-06-2011 , 06:42 AM
The average edge has a lot of variance, because we arent machines, we actually go on tilt. Tilt isnt neccessarily short term, but can also be very long term. Both unconcious, like making bad plays without knowing it, and concious, like spamming a pokerforum. Needs like protecting hopes and goals, might take form in extreme forms of lying and selective thinking, like thinking one is a Pokergod, even if the average edge is on a large downswing. The sad part is that you likely need to make radical changes to your thinking to break that pattern, and that the deeper you are in a downswing, the stronger these destructive patterns are cured.

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12-06-2011 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDiesel
Lol, this is ridiculous, man. Is it a level? Fredron stated that I AM a break-even player. The probability/likelyhood of this is like less then 1%, that I'm break-even player with 12bb/100 over 200k hands. The same thing he could state for example. Lol, dude, you are 30bb/100 winner.

And given how bad i run, there's no way i'm break-even player. I discount that 1% chance. Case solved.
PD,

Just been reading the last couple of pages and nobody has said you are a break even player. Due to variance results differ over short periods of time and a player with an overall winrate of 0bb/100 can, over 200k hands win at 15bb/100 or they could lose at 15bb/100 given your SD. It was just an example of how variance can work.

Looking here: http://www.evplusplus.com/poker_tools/poker_winrate_confidence/ and putting in your SD and winrate over 200k hands you can be 99.99% confident that your true winrate falls between 28bb/100 and -3.4bb/100. So until you put in alot more hands, say over million, you will never know what your TRUE winrate is.

That doesn't mean you are a losing player, it means that 200k hands is a small sample size and you cannot tell what your TRUE winrate is. After 1million hands you will have a better idea what your true winrate would be.

Remember, if your true winrate is 12bb/100 (over say 10 million hands) you can still lose over 30k hands or even 200k hands. Thats why you have bankroll management skills to make sure you don't go bust! Losing over 30k hands with a very aggro style is normal and you will obviously need a big bankroll or the ability to move down stakes to combat it.

Hope this helps make it clearer. If not then good luck figuring it out. Variance is a bitch.
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12-06-2011 , 10:39 AM
Last try. I completely understand what you are saying, but the possibility of 12bb/100 winner over 200k hands shows that the chance of him beeing break-even player is MISERABLE! Plus combine that to the feel that you run bad and this possibility fades away to ZERO!
Another point to stop all this nonsensic crap about break-even stuff possibility: whenever i play some1 i usually quickly spot most of their weaknesses and start exploiting them, while i don't make same horrendous obvious mistakes and not letting them exploit me much except rare cases. Dang, i even start exploiting some players right away, because of my estimation of their overall fish appear. In example, i might start the match 4xing OTB instead of std 3xing and guess what, at NL100 i'll be correct way more often then find a player that will start adjusting to it. Do you get what i'm saying? Basically i can brake down the match afterwards and tell you what mistakes he did, how much it costs him long time, what mistakes i didnt fall into, how much i saved, and the difference is going into me profiting, DOH! So leave that break-even nonsense to BBV, please. Can't believe we are discussing this BS in such weird holerious way.
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12-06-2011 , 10:42 AM
Lol PD people are only trying to help you here and apparently you still dont understand what they are saying. Really truely amazing that you supposedly do all these poker things so well but yet have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old. Now come at me with that RAW POWER!
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12-06-2011 , 11:23 AM
PD if there's a 1% chance of it than there's probably like 1-3 people who frequent this thread that would qualify. Why not you?

in seriousness though, just watch this video because ultimate is awesome and this thread sucks so badly that it overlooked it

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Turns out flinging frisbees can be pretty f*cking sick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JwV3cAowD4&sns=fb
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12-06-2011 , 11:24 AM
BYN, nah, man, i'm done messing around here, relax. I just wanted to vent lil bit on my downer, to whine some, that's all bro. Don't see how some1 can help me by making a joke that i'm break-even player, lol, and then people start seriosuly discuss this in depth, which MY logic just fails accepting. But i like how you go from thinking of me as a "fish" to good player Peace!
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12-06-2011 , 11:25 AM
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PD if there's a 1% chance of it than there's probably like 1-3 people who frequent this thread that would qualify. Why not you?

in seriousness though, just watch this video because ultimate is awesome and this thread sucks so badly that it overlooked it
Hey, maybe you are the one out of those "luckers" - go place your whole roll on ZERO and score big

Nice vid BTW! But they are probably "break-even" players. Wonder how many attempts they've made before each shot to score it even complete noob from the street could hit it after N number of trials and post them on youtube
jk jk

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12-06-2011 , 11:33 AM
PD, if its such nonsense and you have the answers already (that your a major winner at 50NL-400NL and you can exploit all the fishy weaknesses) then surely you understand your 30k downer is standard? Everyone else knows its standard and not really a big deal.

I look forward to seeing you crush the High Stakes games very soon.
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12-06-2011 , 11:35 AM
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BYN, nah, man, i'm done messing around here, relax. I just wanted to vent lil bit on my downer, to whine some, that's all bro. Don't see how some1 can help me by making a joke that i'm break-even player, lol, and then people start seriosuly discuss this in depth, which MY logic just fails accepting. But i like how you go from thinking of me as a "fish" to good player Peace!
Still lacking reading comprehension :P. Good luck with the downer though. Idk how they feel anymore since Im retired as of now
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12-06-2011 , 12:10 PM
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Don't see how some1 can help me by making a joke that i'm break-even player, lol, and then people start seriosuly discuss this in depth
Looks to me like you're the only one discussing your edge in depth. Someone made a joke, you didn't get it then everyone tries to explain it to you while you still dont understand but go into detail about how you exploit players.

As BYN said, your comprehension is lol
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12-06-2011 , 02:57 PM
Ok, enough attempts trying to explain it to PD.

Lets just assume he's a break-even player.

Spoiler:
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