I strongly disagree, I have put in only about 5k hands to be honest, but from what I've witnessed it may be easier to make money there than 6max.

People join NL10 with 30bb's and go all preflop in 5-6 times in a row, or jam on flop with 2nd pair etc.. They also join table and jam preflop few times in a row for 80bb's+ with suited connectors or Ax, Kx hands, low pairs, or **** in general.

Had a guy at NL10 that came to a table and played quite normally, then started jamming all over the place preflop, caught him with JJ vs 56o preflop for 200bb's, etc..

People are trash in general at these stakes, and there are many fishes that come and jam their remaining money at HU from what I've witnessed. I think there is way bigger winrate possible, and I win on 6max micros with around 13bb/100 (could be more). If you fish enough you could be easily pulling 20bb/100 at micro NLHU I believe.

I've made a new range for calling 3bets, which is 20% range. It contains all broadways, A2ss-A5ss, 22-JJ, then I threw in some 56ss 76ss 86ss 97ss T8ss J8ss Q9ss. I don't know what to feel about hands like Q9ss or if I should also add K9ss, A9ss, etc..

However, the second question that I have is, what if opponent uses the same 3bet size every time? I always use x3bb and regs also usually don't change it. So, I guess some of my weaker hands (KTo, ATo, QTo, Q9ss, T8ss, A2-A5ss) should be like a bluffing range or what?

Also, my 3bet calling range is now 20%, and 3bet range is 12.2%. Shouldn't my 3bet range be bigger than my 3bet calling range?

Another thing I had a great deal of problems was, people joining with 30bb at NL10 open limping. How does my range change now?, I thought about checking most of my hands, and x4bb raising when I have broadways, 88+, and suited connectors. If they 3bet, I'm going all in with 99+ , AQs+. Also what about people that come and open jam few times, thought ATo+, KQss, 77+ shold be a standard call there?

By the way, I know I should work this out with FlopZilla or CREV somewhere down the line as I'm playing, but I'm yet learning to use those programs. So if anyone could give me some rough estimations, I would appreciate it.

If you think otherwise, sure, go ahead. Just wanted to let you know that rake is absolutely ridiculous, to my knowledge all sites which offer $5-$20 HU cash have rake cap of $1 which means pots up to $20 don't get capped, and in 5% uncapped game rake is something in the 60-70bb/100 range per table if I remember correctly.

Battling regs is useless at these stakes of course, but we are talking about fishes that can lose money in 20 hands.

If you open 65.6% and defend ~13% vs 3-bet, then you will have 80% FT3B.
The logic behind 3-bet range doesn't look great either. Why would you 3-bet A2s-A5s at 100% freq, but not 3-bet AJo?

You learn HU a lot by playing. Adjusting to opponents is the key. Default strategy is just the "book theory" that you can revert to if you have no info on your opponent.

This might be dumb, but how did you come to F3B%?

Well, A2-A5ss is quite playable I think, because of straights and flushes, also does well on low boards. AJo seems too loose at first sight to me (wouldn't know what to do if I don't hit TP or 2nd P or GS..), but what do I know, I'm just learning for now and I will rather listen to someone with 5,5k posts and see how it goes.

I did fair deal of HU50 and HU100 as a rec in past, and remember having no problem shoving on river with nothing when feeling confident about opponent or overbetting bluffs or for max value, etc.. I did quite good for how much knowledge I had at that time. However, I want to take the right road now and not dgen it ever again (too much stress). And I enjoy learning and sticking to BRM, makes me happy.

FT3b% = ([Opening range] - [Defend vs. 3b range]) / (Opening range)
FT3b% = (65,6% - 13%) / 65,6% = 80,18%

If you're making 13bb/100 at 6max and estimate (hope) your HU winrate at 20, you very likely shouldn't be spending your time playing HU if the purpose is money.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of rake have you paid thus far?

Thank you.

Yes, I've figured out my ranges are way to tight.

I'm at work so I can't check. However, it depends on site. My main site that I play on, affiliate gives me 50 or 60% rake back + bonuses (have to check at home, but I'm on phone now), so it's alright.

I don't really mind that atm, I just want to git gud. I took poker waaaay to seriouslly in the past and now that I treat it as a hobby in my free time and extra cash,I'm doing much much more better, since I'm much more relaxed when I play and motivated. I used to put in 8 hours per day and was breakeven or losing, now I play when I feel like and study on the side out of curiosity and enjoynment and I feel in love with the game again

I don't treat it as a wannabe carrer anymore and figured out having balance in life is very important for me while playing poker. However, I'm still very eager to learn and put in hours and take advice very seriouslly, which in the past wasn't always the case.

I really hope everybody that contributed until now, understand that I appreciate it very much and I look forward to solving the strategy of HU (poker is just a strategy game of numbers after all. Much like chess, but chess and money and variance with seriouslly more dynamic approach) .

Did Bovada change to KOTH?

Can I ask how big swings can I expect from HU, so I don't play it under rolled? I did it in poker variance calculator, and the worst was -2.000bb (with the stats I believe I can have), so I guess it is not that bad, but I'm not sure. It kind of hurts me mentally right now, because I did not think I will be that much under EV at NL10.

The worst thing is, I had few fishes that I beat below 9bb and then they start jamming all kinds of **** (which benefits my EV), but ran it up to 200bb+ somehow.

My question is, is it just better to sit out when they are so low, so they don't have this magic run up where I lose in the end and rake like crazy?

I also had so many setups, I just laugh it off sometimes, but othertimes it is not so funny when fishes just hit everything an it seems as if the site just wants to rake more.



stddev(BB/100) = 105.63

Could also someone looked at stats quickly and maybe point out what I might be doing wrong, I believe there is still A LOT of things to be fixed. I know sample size is small, but I'm just gonna stick to 6max for now, because I don't want to deal with these swings and set ups for now, hurt too much mentally, because I know I would of had much bigger profit now from 6max only.

your vpip is to low(amount of hands you defend with), your buttonraise needs to go up, you 3bet 40% of the hands youre supposed to, start with that. What is going to happen graph wise if you do not overfold postflop is that your red line should take a walk upwards as i imagine most ppl playing similar as you do now, and if they don´t your red line wont decline anymore in the pace it does, which in turn means a increase to your ev-winrate.

Plenty of other issues to go around postflop from what I can see, but I leave that for much more experienced players than myself.


Edit: I understand that there is a rake issue to take into consideration when forming your strategy at these stakes, but if your opponents are having similar vpip as you do, open 100%, no rake preflop. Tighten up some if they defend 80%+ if it means rake is overtaking the profit. Have a few gears handy bro.

Im not sure but the tables aren't autospawning like they used to

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Not sure why you think I'm crying about it, but yeah I'm not used to that.. that's why I made the post and about 3 questions within it, to answer my uncertainty.

However, keep the memes incoming if it satisfies your inner ego .

Hi guys,

Does somebody know how much more rake needs to be payed per 100 hands at 100NL zoom? Haven't played this game for a very long time and lost my database, so can't compare what the difference is between pre and post rakechanges.

i'm paying almost exactly 11bb/100 since rake changes, may vary a bit depending on play style (im on a tigher side)

pre changes it was around 7,5bb/100 i think

Do Ongame still offer hu games?

With a 3 euro rake cap and 0 players, yes. GL with that.

Have ongame adressed that opensit 160 tables debacle ? :-) Left site when that started years Ago obv

There is a lot going on here as others have pointed out, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It seems like you are taking things seriously with a strong desire to follow up and monitor progress. As others have stated its a little too early imo to delve into the deep stats or worry about EV.

The big things that need immediate fixing is your redline as well as your hands won. A solid winning player should be winning at least 48% of hands at the bare minimum even with playstyle variation. You are folding far too much. Looking at your winrate I'm guessing you are both getting bluffed too much and not bluffing enough in many MANY pots.

The simplest start I would advise anyone who is finding bluffing difficult is to ease yourself into it with a few universally easy bluff spots.

3betting more (to 10bb if 3x raised or 8bb if 2x raised) and then following up with a just over half pot cbet.

Continuation betting more turns (in your case probably just more in general) but specifically more turns that are overs to the board, many of the players you are up against are going to peel flops with 2nd pair or worse and will be forced to fold when facing with a second bet now holding 3rd pair at best.

Checkraising your flushdraws more on the flop, follow up with a turn lead if the turn is not a brick or does not pair the board. (Try this with some gutshots + overs and straight draws too)

If your opponent cbets frequently, try leading some turns on the times he doesn't cbet. Try out some 2 barrels here by following up on scary river cards.

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Some spots that you are going to find harder to bluff and I wouldn't recommend as often include

Paired boards

Ace high dry flops when you are out of position (you will find if you havne't already that a lot of microstakes players are going to check their ace back to you.)

Rivers with 4 or more to a flush.

Flops with all low cards. (This can be (and will be) a very profitable spot but will almost always require multiple barrels and for someone who isn't very familiar with the ins and outs of running multibarreled bluffs it can be tricky; I think you will find it difficult to get players to fold to one bet or a checkraise here.)


I understand these are some of the more basic headsup concepts, and also that not every play is applicable vs every player type. A lot gets lost amid the confusion of everything associated with getting back into poker - Goodluck and always happy to talk about headsup cash if you want to pm.

Thank you for that post. Very well written.

suck me

hows the zoom200 hu action these days?

very good, tons of fish