How wide you guys 3bet preflop out of the blinds?

Is hand like 86o and K2o defendable against 100% minraise?

Mathematically speaking you should defend ~50% of hands against a minraise

Best Tactic: Close Table or request 3xing in Chat

lets not encourage bumhunting

Bum hunting ftw... OP I would start to 3b more often and make 3bets of varying sizes, see how villain reacts to this.

People think this because they want to stop bttn from auto profiting
that's the wrong idea
it would only be the case if there was no post flop advantage from being in position. That 50% rule would only be true if you could expect to break even from BB. You can't.

That being said, i use the top 50% of deck as default (but i got to that number a different way) I think any hand that has at least 50% equity vs random is worth defending against a player who MR's bttn every hand because I doubt that his post flop edge is worth more than 3 to 1 express odds, so i can call without looking at my hand, so i can call if i look at my hand and its average+.
Here's my range;22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q5s+,Q7o+,J7s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,K 5o+,Q7o+,T9o,87s,76s(All the hands that are >50% vs random, plus a few spec hands that arent quite 50% EVR but have potential *22,76s,87s,98s;
I will 3 bet about 25% or so(and prolly go a bit bigger than normal 3X his bet sizing. Say he MR's to 40, I might reraise to 140-160 rather than 120.

Just played a 200nl match today against someone who was minr 100%. I min 3b 35%, not trolling it really did happen.

fyp

To look at it this way, you need to be able to realise your equity, and it's unlikely this will be the case if villain is aggressive and barrelling a lot.

I call any min reraise. People are afraid to play out of position saying its not profitable. Over the last 100 k hands i have profited out of position. It is profitable if you learn on how to play out of position. Most people don't know how to win out of position. But you just have to work on your game. Its the biggest misconception is that you can't win out of position. Most players aren't good enough to know how to win out of position. it will never be as profitable as being in position, but it doesn't mean you can't win out of position. 3 betting a min raise is setting your money on fire. Basically your giving the opponent a great situation. He can either fold you win small pot. He can call and when he does your probably behind out of position or come back over the top with a 4 bet and your probably dominated. So every time he does call or raise your behind out of position and its not a good situation. Its best just to call and see a flop. Most of the players i do min raise against i believe i have a huge edge post flop and i want to see a lot of flops against them. Or against guys who over play pre flop and i can simply fold my marginal hands. But if there good post flop players i tend to 3x and 4x to take more blinds down. So if he is min raising maybe he thinks he has big edge post flop against you. If your not a good post flop player you should sit out. YOu need to call that min raise and see flops the price is just to good.

Donovan, too many assumptions. How do you think you can possibly determine the highest EV defending percentage based on a load of guesses about what will happen post flop, and thus totally disregard immediate pre flop EV edges? I'll answer that... you can't.

let's play a game, I will min open 100% you will defend 100%. We can play 2/4 or something and side bet I will give you 2:1 over 20k hands.

I do it all day long and beat them all day long. But if you think your going to get me to play so you can find out how to play out of position its not going to happen. You want lessons pay a coach something i am not. And i dont play 20 k hands i play about 1000 hands a day. I am not multi table player. Playing 20 k hands would take afew days. That doesn't even make sense even if you 4 table for 8 hrs you only get in about 5 k hands. Your just not good post flop out of position so you fold to min raises no big deal. I am sure your a losing player out of position its no big deal most people are.

is this open to anyone? if the sidebet is big enough I can think of someone that would snapcall

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