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07-22-2016 , 06:54 PM
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This HH is from 2009 but i still don't get how he can call river here. Thoughts??

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07-22-2016 , 07:38 PM
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This HH is from 2009 but i still don't get how he can call river here. Thoughts??

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What's wrong with you? Get this guy outta here. I don't even post here and you are annoying me lol
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07-23-2016 , 12:20 AM
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When did these forums get so f****ing hostile???? What did I do wrong?? Legitimate question no?
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07-23-2016 , 12:34 AM
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He would be playing to theory which means opponents bluffs must BE. In order for this size bet to BE we need to fold 23% of our range and call 77%. J9 must me in the top 77% of jungles hands after taking this line making it a call.
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07-23-2016 , 01:04 AM
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When did these forums get so f****ing hostile???? What did I do wrong?? Legitimate question no?
Yes- the first time you asked it maybe.
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07-23-2016 , 03:39 PM
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What could he be up against, kq? 3Q must more likly, also due to stack size bluff very prob.
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07-23-2016 , 06:11 PM
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08-01-2016 , 01:34 AM
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He would be playing to theory which means opponents bluffs must BE. In order for this size bet to BE we need to fold 23% of our range and call 77%. J9 must me in the top 77% of jungles hands after taking this line making it a call.
Can you please construct a range for Jungle where J high would be in the top 77% that beats a bluff? Remember that Hero xr flop and bet turn.
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09-21-2016 , 03:46 PM
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He would be playing to theory which means opponents bluffs must BE. In order for this size bet to BE we need to fold 23% of our range and call 77%. J9 must me in the top 77% of jungles hands after taking this line making it a call.
The only thing I can think of is Jungle has some timing tell or bet pattern he picked up on when this opponent is bluffing. I see now he had great pot odds to call too. Its probably a little bit of both is why he called here. I have a feeling he poker stoved it during the match before he made the call. U would not think the ev close to 28%.
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10-31-2016 , 02:19 PM
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He would be playing to theory which means opponents bluffs must BE. In order for this size bet to BE we need to fold 23% of our range and call 77%. J9 must me in the top 77% of jungles hands after taking this line making it a call.
IDK, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's chck raise floats and very light calls that make this true but this looks like closer to the bottom of than that to me?

Maybe strange third level blocker effects and sick leveling going on but this looks really odd to me too.
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10-31-2016 , 09:36 PM
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Other guy pots the flop so his range is probably good Kx+ or blufs, he wouldn't ship Kx on the river so amount of value combos is low, jungle beats a bluf and he thinks he's right often enough.

Thats all there is to it there is no sick levelling or blocker effects or jungle trying to call 72% of his range it's just handreading
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