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11-22-2010, 03:24 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Stay Awhile and Listen
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
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Originally Posted by tomcat20185
What's a good rate for a 50nl coach? (In terms of the student cost)
Is it worth it? Has anyone been a break even or losing person and became a winning hu player after coaching who wants to share their experiences?
Thanks
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I'd say around $50/hr is pretty cheap, if you can get lower than thats even better.
I was a breakeven player at 50nl, slightly losing before I got coaching and then became a winning HU player after a few sessions with a CR pro last year. Definitely worth it imo. I play 100nl-400nl now. And 6max 200nl is pretty "soft" to me now. Not going to lie though, it's taken a lot of work in between my first coachign session and now, and it definitely doesn't come easy. but coaching will set you in the right direction
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11-26-2010, 11:45 PM
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#47
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 530
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
Hi, I'm a newbie here and I want to verify a rumor that spread among my friends...
"The 2p2 hu forum is very dangerous for a noob", because many players post here trying to outplay the mind of the reader so they don't post what they actual think
Is that true?
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11-29-2010, 11:59 PM
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#48
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,855
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
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Originally Posted by ServerBTest002
Hi, I'm a newbie here and I want to verify a rumor that spread among my friends...
"The 2p2 hu forum is very dangerous for a noob", because many players post here trying to outplay the mind of the reader so they don't post what they actual think
Is that true?
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lol no. once you get to know who certain posters are you will see there are a ton of very good posts. there are some bad ones too but you just have to learn how is competent and who is a retard
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11-30-2010, 01:13 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: the land of pleasant living
Posts: 1,146
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Re: Is this a standard barrel?
Just trying NL50 on full tilt last night and I am the fish so I thought ppl would want to play me but everyone kept getting up 10 bucks and quitting me...anyway I got a good 500 hand session going against villain. This hand was at the end of the session and I had noticed that he was calling my 3-bets OTB with hands like A3, A7o. So I decided to 3-bet lighter (don't know if this is correct). He also had decided to recently float flops in 3-bet pots but normally would shut down to a second barrel.
Hero in BB ($75):dealt J  9 
Villain SB/BTN (Covers me)
Villain raises to 1.5, Hero raises to 5, Villain calls 3.5
Flop: A  4  9
Hero bets 7.5 (been the standard c-bet in 3-bet pots), Villain calls 7.5
Turn: 8  Pot(25)
Hero?
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11-30-2010, 03:09 PM
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#50
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,855
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Re: Is this a standard barrel?
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Originally Posted by kimoser22
Just trying NL50 on full tilt last night and I am the fish so I thought ppl would want to play me but everyone kept getting up 10 bucks and quitting me...anyway I got a good 500 hand session going against villain. This hand was at the end of the session and I had noticed that he was calling my 3-bets OTB with hands like A3, A7o. So I decided to 3-bet lighter (don't know if this is correct). He also had decided to recently float flops in 3-bet pots but normally would shut down to a second barrel.
Hero in BB ($75):dealt J  9 
Villain SB/BTN (Covers me)
Villain raises to 1.5, Hero raises to 5, Villain calls 3.5
Flop: A  4  9
Hero bets 7.5 (been the standard c-bet in 3-bet pots), Villain calls 7.5
Turn: 8  Pot(25)
Hero?
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Seems like an easy bet of about 18
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12-01-2010, 02:36 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 57
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
Hi, I just switched to HU after about 18 months at FR. I watched pr1nnyraiding series 1 before getting started and now I am beginning on series 2. I mostly have been limiting opponents to only short stackers and loose passives = 60/20ish. However, when playing against these particular types of opponents, I dont bluff much. This causes my redline to be waaaaay negative which makes me wonder am I taking the wrong approach. Should I worry about this?
Thanks
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12-01-2010, 02:14 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
Posts: 3,701
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
Hello -
I wanted to ask a question about transitioning to HUNL.
I am a LHE reg - have been playing for a couple of years and I'm a breakeven player. I'm not the greatest player and I have a lot to learn. I am a member of DC and have access to all their HU vids.
My question is should I learn and play 6m first then transition into HU? Or should I just start with the basics of HUNL and just go from there? Am I loosing time by not learning HU strat if that's the game I'd like to play or is there a "right of passage" in that you should learn 6M or even FR first before transitioning into HUNL?
I have a lot of time to really sit down and study now that I am laid off but I don't want to waste time either by not going the right study route. Also - I have the $ for a good solid 50HUNL - should I just go for it?
Thanks - NSS
edit: I should I also add that I have experienced some pretty sick downswings playing 1/2LHE and the variance even though I've heard it's the worst in HUNL doesn't scare me. I think I have the fortitude to handle it if I can load up a 100bi br. Thank you again.
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12-02-2010, 03:05 PM
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#53
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lifting, running and banging
Posts: 11,279
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Re: Is this a standard barrel?
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Originally Posted by kimoser22
Just trying NL50 on full tilt last night and I am the fish so I thought ppl would want to play me but everyone kept getting up 10 bucks and quitting me...anyway I got a good 500 hand session going against villain. This hand was at the end of the session and I had noticed that he was calling my 3-bets OTB with hands like A3, A7o. So I decided to 3-bet lighter (don't know if this is correct). He also had decided to recently float flops in 3-bet pots but normally would shut down to a second barrel.
Hero in BB ($75):dealt J  9 
Villain SB/BTN (Covers me)
Villain raises to 1.5, Hero raises to 5, Villain calls 3.5
Flop: A  4  9
Hero bets 7.5 (been the standard c-bet in 3-bet pots), Villain calls 7.5
Turn: 8  Pot(25)
Hero?
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Two nine of clubs? That's unpossible.
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12-02-2010, 03:27 PM
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#54
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,855
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Re: Is this a standard barrel?
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Originally Posted by Aidan
Two nine of clubs? That's unpossible.
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lol i didnt even notice
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12-02-2010, 09:45 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Re: Is this a standard barrel?
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Originally Posted by Aidan
Two nine of clubs? That's unpossible.
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Musta played it at UB!
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12-03-2010, 03:50 PM
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#56
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 530
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
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Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
lol no. once you get to know who certain posters are you will see there are a ton of very good posts. there are some bad ones too but you just have to learn how is competent and who is a retard
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Great, ty man
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12-04-2010, 03:58 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,855
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
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Originally Posted by ServerBTest002
Great, ty man
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sure np and gl. enjoy the forums
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12-09-2010, 08:21 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Gainesville, Florida
Posts: 261
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
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Originally Posted by vap3
what do you think are the pros and cons of HU sngs and HU cash?
- rake
- game structure (cash = 100 bb stacks ; sng 10-100 bb stacks)
- hourly rate
- variance
- if the regular 6 max cash player should start HU sng or HU cash first if wanting to venture into the HU world
- As well as anything else that I haven't mentioned and you wish to add/comment.
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- 0.25/0.50: 0.05 for every 1.00= 5% | 5.25 SnG: single 0.25 fee on 5.25= 4.76%
- Cash has deeper stacks with lower blinds.
- Ring Games allow rebuys where SnG's have rematches. Commitment determines hourly rate.
- Constant blind pressure makes variance higher in tournaments.
- Decision between cash and tournaments depends on bankroll situation.
Lower buy-ins are available for SnG's while Cash reaches much higher stakes.
- Cash has deeper stacks, rebuys, and liberty to leave whenever. SnG's have lower rake, constant blind pressure, and remtaches.
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12-12-2010, 03:22 PM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,191
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
hey,
i'm a midstakes 6 max player learning HU at 100nl and 200nl,i notice the rake is massive in these games,i'm just wondering has anyone ever put up a post comparing HU rake across the sites,it seems like it could make 100nl almost unbeatable,even though the players are terrible.
HU rake on my site is capped at $1,i'm wondering is this standard and also what sort of effect it would have on your winrate at low stakes.
is there a big difference between rake on the various networks? i'm playing at ongame at the moment but could move to somewhere else.
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12-12-2010, 06:13 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,855
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Re: Beginners Thread (New posters please read)
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Originally Posted by invisibleleadsoup
hey,
i'm a midstakes 6 max player learning HU at 100nl and 200nl,i notice the rake is massive in these games,i'm just wondering has anyone ever put up a post comparing HU rake across the sites,it seems like it could make 100nl almost unbeatable,even though the players are terrible.
HU rake on my site is capped at $1,i'm wondering is this standard and also what sort of effect it would have on your winrate at low stakes.
is there a big difference between rake on the various networks? i'm playing at ongame at the moment but could move to somewhere else.
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i believe pokerlisting compares rakeback for sites. 100NL is very beatable. Most sites cap it at $.50 but some do cap it at $1 which is outrageous and I wont play lower than NL200 on these sites
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