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Old 03-17-2012, 05:02 PM   #586
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Re: General Theory vs. Loose Passives

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OMG OMG I'm 1nd!!!

Wait, 2005? OMG OMG I'm really 1rd!!!
do you even beat poker anymore?










anyways, tbh its probably a fine strat. ive had ppl ive played before where i went from limping to raising 5x or more based on my hand strength. as long as the ppl youre playing are really dumb it wont matter that much but be careful they dont pick up on your strategy. but personally i think only raising top 10% is way too tight. like i could understand raising top 50% and limping rest but 10% is too little imo. when you do hit youre going to be making much less money because of how much smaller the pot is (this is why i liked just making it diff sizes pre based on my hand strength).

iirc missy922 limps some (idk how much) and batters donks.

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Old 03-17-2012, 05:45 PM   #587
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Re: General Theory vs. Loose Passives

WTF TC?

-this thread belongs to super beginners thread.
-it's so retarded to limp few hands and raise 10%, even most unimaginative villain would catch up on that (btw Missy raises ~50% and limps ~33%, also he mixes up lil bit his ranges anyway and plays on a passive side postflop and makes his betsizing small, mainly to induce).
-OP does it against bad players, and yet he purposely avoids profitable situations of raising it up and building a pot to ...lower the variance ffs
-ensuring to commit chips only when you are "pretty sure ahead" is stupid also, i hope i don't have to explain why is that lol.
-opening 100% pre 3xing OTB against lose-passive is >>> limping and "valuebetting to death" lol, which sounds funny in itself. Letting him fold few worse hands preflop sometime does not outweigh jucing up the pot, Jesus!

I couldn't pass by w/o joke seeing 2005 account registration.

Don't get over your head, dude. You are not much better then me, son
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:06 PM   #588
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Re: General Theory vs. Loose Passives

Jeez, this guy really loves himself...

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Old 03-17-2012, 07:19 PM   #589
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Re: ****BEGINNERS THREAD (New posters please read)****

You're an idiot. You clearly don't understand meta-game concepts like the ones described by my thread.

OMG I HAVE LIKE 3,773 POSTS AND YOU HAVE 953, STFU NOOB.

If you can't understand the simple math in this thread then you should definitely cry, and go back to first grade. People with less than 1000 posts shouldn't be allowed to post, theyr'e always so dumb.

I'm just so sick of the whining on these boards "Waah Waah, I lost with AA to KQ." KQ HAD SIX OUTS TO IMPROVE IDIOT, YOU ONLY HAD TWO!

Learn to play poker first and read at least a book or something:



Sorry I'm tilted, some superdonk just sucked out on my AK with his overplayed QQ preflop and its really pissing me off.

Preflop, a pocket pair only has 2 outs to improve,overcards have 6! (This is not even taking into account straight and flush draws!) That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand. So stop whining.
The "coinflip" is a common misconception. First, the "9 outs" to "pair any of the flop cards" exists for the overcards too, so those can't be addressed here. Its very simple, the better hand in poker is the one with more outs. Clearly, AK has more outs than QQ, therefoer AK is a strong favorte 6 outs versus 2 outs is a 3:1 favorite. Stop overplaying your pocket pairs!

If you don't believe me, read this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...them-1-1-a-64/

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Old 03-17-2012, 07:28 PM   #590
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Re: ****BEGINNERS THREAD (New posters please read)****

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WTF TC?

-this thread belongs to super beginners thread.
-it's so retarded to limp few hands and raise 10%, even most unimaginative villain would catch up on that (btw Missy raises ~50% and limps ~33%, also he mixes up lil bit his ranges anyway and plays on a passive side postflop and makes his betsizing small, mainly to induce).
-OP does it against bad players, and yet he purposely avoids profitable situations of raising it up and building a pot to ...lower the variance ffs
-ensuring to commit chips only when you are "pretty sure ahead" is stupid also, i hope i don't have to explain why is that lol.
-opening 100% pre 3xing OTB against lose-passive is >>> limping and "valuebetting to death" lol, which sounds funny in itself. Letting him fold few worse hands preflop sometime does not outweigh jucing up the pot, Jesus!

I couldn't pass by w/o joke seeing 2005 account registration.

Don't get over your head, dude. You are not much better then me, son



well i mean so what PD, the guy seems sincere and i mean just because you know the answer doesnt mean its a question that shouldnt be asked. ur joke was super over the top, pretty rude, and unfunny. and esp to some1 that isnt a regular poster here and might be new to hu/hu forum. so i threw a jab back at you . its all good tho bro.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:41 PM   #591
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No.
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:11 PM   #592
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In a freeze-out format, I'd much rather take a 60% chance of winning 10bb's than a 65% chance of winning 50bb's. If we do this every hand, starting with 100bb's, I'll win much more often with the 60% method...so it's not nearly as straightforward as you're making it out to be.

Regardless, it's not as if raising 100% OTB is THE strategy. Raptor's well-known for limping a crazy high % of buttons and obviously he's ridiculously good.

Finally, this is the beginner's thread for HU...I wouldn't berate someone who asked basic SNG questions in a "beginners sng thread". I regularly post in SMP's HW Help thread and Wyman (a math PhD and a great guy) responds all the time without a hint of condescension. Obviously the knowledge/ability gap there is enormous but you'd never know it.

If you're not going to be constructive, just don't post. It's really just that simple.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:06 AM   #593
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How my reply, which TC quoted last, is not constructive???
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Quick question:

If my winrate is 12bb/100 and rake is 8bb/100 that means, in a rakefree game, my true winrate would be 20bb/100, right?
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:30 AM   #595
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:40 PM   #596
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(btw Missy raises ~50% and limps ~33%, also he mixes up lil bit his ranges anyway and plays on a passive side postflop and makes his betsizing small, mainly to induce).
I'm surprised you both managed to get a game together considering the hardcore game selection you both use
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:00 AM   #597
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^^I've been playing regs last autumn, and slowed down after winter, because it's mega annoying finding action: they either raise up OTB and sit out, or play some hands and sit out, or play win some and sit out, they keep playing only while running good, as soon as they start losing they snap quit. I've labeled regs who doesn't give action with orange note color, and now whole lobby looks like yellow submarine. **** that. Only stronger ones give action, and I'm not action junky as Isildur to play them. I have enough of my variance.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:00 PM   #598
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^^I once played a hand with a reg by mistake last autumn because ptr was down that day, and stopped playing on days it wasn't working after winter because I realised I couldn't beat them: they realise that I 3-bet far to much and just print money because I can only beat fish. I've labelled regs I need to sit out against with orange note color, and now whole lobby looks like yellow submarine. **** that. Only stronger ones give action, and I'm not action junky as Isildur to play them. I have enough of my variance.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:08 AM   #599
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How many BB (big bets so NL50 1BB is 1.00 USD) should be normal winrate if I don't play vs regs? I am playing NL50, always take an open table, and during first few hands I find out if the player is a winning one from Pokertableratings. So far all the players who have sat on my table have been in HU losing players, so I guess regs always open a new table.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:53 AM   #600
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i think 8-10BB would be a good goal. rake is obv gonna eat a decent chunk, but 50nl fish are just awful so I would guess 10BB would be pretty doable. I wouldnt be bummed if you were at 5BB though.

PTR some of the regs your competing with, and see what theyre beating it for.

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