Originally Posted by ReDLiNeMaKeDiKHaRd
dave you have no idea what you're talking about. You clearly have not played poker if you think games are not getting tougher all the time. So many people who used to win no longer do and so many who used to be crushers are rb pros/modest winners.
There's many reasons the games are more difficult, but the number one reason at this point is due the black friday and few people outside of the better players are crazy enough to deposit, and this is more true for the higher stakes games. I'm uncomfortable even keeping a 4-figure roll online at this point, but I'd rather play and earn little more than minimum wage and keep myself a little sharp for the (hopefully) impending U.S. regulation. I play small-stakes on Carbon, and I'm not particularly impressed with the level of competition, but I could be delusional since I'm not a 15BB/100 "crusher" either. Regs refuse my action for the most part, so that's at least some social confirmation. If I was comfortable keeping more money online, I'd be sitting at 400HUNL with you so we can compare PTR graphs and maybe I'd donate some money to to you so you can "teach" me to play. Do I have problems in my game? Yes. Are there leaks? Yes. Do I recognize all of my leaks? Obviously not or they'd be fixed.
As for those that were crushers and now rb pros, I'm not qualified to speak on this subject since this isn't my current experience, but I hope you are qualifying when they were crushers ('06? LOL). Regardless, competition and commerce is what it is and the game goes on.
Despite my qualifications, ability, or experience, my argument has nothing at all to do with tougher games, my argument focuses on the health of the games and ensuring more players come in and stay playing, and the way to do this is not giving them bad advice, treating them like ****, and forcing them give up. They should be receiving at least okay advice and encouraged to stick around and try more. Yeah, some 5 to 10% might get better, and that shouldn't be a problem at all: 1 good player brings along 10 bad players seeing the magic pill. When you give out awful advice and treat new players like ****, you are purposely abandoning your potential player pool: the only people who will stick around are those that have the mental toughness to become winners. What other result would you expect?
Do you honestly believe that treating people (players) like **** results in more customers (fish) for you? Have you ever played live at a lively table and see it tighten up to unplayable and boring because one moron comes in and starts acting like an *******? Same thing.