Folding Ax for just a minraise is something I wouldn't do really. People play so bad postflop and it's quite important to defend semi-widely to get some early postflop reads from unknowns.


Std hand obv.


First folding Ax then 3betting 75s from the start? Hah, sounds like something a cash player would do.
Ehm, I'm totally not a big fan of this, especially in the ftp turbo structure people just don't fold vs 3bets so it's really unnecessarry to start 3betting air early on without reads (though your hand isn't the worst to flop some equity with obv), just because they don't fold, I'd go with a wide 3bet valuerange to start off with and take it from there. =)

Just play postflop imo, a lot more interesting instead of the preflop wars that are standardly being eld nowadays. People just make so much bigger mistakes postflop really...

Also, don't expect to get THAT much metagame/balancing going against a random. Big chance he'll decline after one game and you'll never see him again.



He doesn't seem to have a std openingsize so going to showdown with either sizing will be very valuable if we ever have the chance.


Std cbet, surprised he didn't float his 2 overs here as people usually do. =)



He seems to play pretty fit/fold so far (3/3 right?) but doesn't mean he can't spazz if you take it away too much with cbets however.


Stop 3betting suited connectors, seriously. You'll notice it yourself once you start playing more ftp turbo's I guess but in my experience, people just don't fold vs 3bets enough to justify doing stuff like this readless.


Don't hate the checkback on flop tbh. We've been cbetting 100% so far and this board usually hits a defendingrange quite hard. Once he checks the turn stabbing looks good, nh.



He 3x's when stacks getting shallower as well. Time to get a hand we can jam over it I guess.



He defends a lot, probably because we're "just" minraising, so we should cbet some boards we normally shouldnt because it would hit his range somewhat hard (like T97ss or smth); he'll have enough unconnected Ax/Kx/Qx in his range to make that profitable.


I probably defend here though we don't have any reads oop in raised pots which could make it a bit harder I guess.


Just cbet here as said before, his preflop range so far looks huge and he doesn't seem to spazz a lot and we have absolutely no showdown value.



He's probably defending close to ATC really.


Again, I probably defend here, but given that you had to show your e-penis by putting pressure preflop in the first blindlevel, again not going to be easy. =)

Jamming looks ev+ as well, even if he calls perfect (which will almost never be the case) but he's opening a decent amount of buttons.


Just cbet and take it down a ton if you ask me. Once he calls flop I'd just give up later streets.

Notice how he didn't jam this preflop but just defended and checked it down with very little showdown on this board.


E-penis in this hh imo. Again, unnecessarry and don't expect too much folds in general. Everytime you 3bet so far I would've loved a flat so much more.


Since he doesn't seem jamhappy, I wouldn't start limping untill he gives a reason for us to do so (esp since he flatted 33 there, just keep minraising and cbetting).



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I don't mind your cbetsize too much because on a board like this in general it doesn't really matter that much since he plays pretty straightforward anyway. Watch out that he can spazz more often or start bluffraising when you use this sizing.

Turn I wouldn't fire tbh, once he calls flop he's got a piece and is unlikely folding turn. Just take your freecard with your medium strong drawing hand if you ask me.

Also, note how you "sucked out" and that he may start playing back a bit more now.



Don't hate the fold really given the last hand but in general, I'd keep minraising as much as possible untill we hit < 20bb's where I might start mixing it up or smth.




Looks fine. He doesn't look like the person who flaots Kx on this flop too much really and I doub't he'll be calling 4th pair on river.


I'd defend here. For some reason you seem to be afraid to play pots oop.


Just minraise, T2o I fold but Q6o with a person unlikely to jam over minraises is a definite raise here.


Again, defendaments.


First 3bet of him, weird sizing with these stacksizes. 8-high never good obv. It's suited though...


Wow, you defended!

Stabbing turn seems fine when he doesn't cbet.


Yeah keep minraising here, under other circumstances, limping might be better but not here.

Betting flop small also looks good.


Looks ev+, flatting probably isn't too bad either (given villain's oop tendencies and his lack of cbetting 1/1 times, he looks like a really fit/fold player in which case I think flatting pre might be better but we have no idea about how accurate that is).


Yah don't mind this. Easy solution since K6o doesn't flop THAT well though he's really fit/fold/passive post so I wouldn't mind MR/fold and cbet smallish if he flats.


Spitejam!


This is pretty close between openjam and MR/call (minraise/fold is not really an option fwiw, just stove a bit and you'll see why), I think minraising will be better here really. Just note that he probably won't be folding any Ax with these stacksizes, nor most strong Kx's or any pocket pair. Therefore it doesn't really matter if we minraise/call or openjam since his getting it in range will be pretty much the same. The only thing we can hope for is that he:
- either spazzes pre and jams some suited connectors
- flats (which is more likely) and we play a big pot in position with an easy to play hand

I usually would prefer KT+ or smth for MR/calling be better over openjamming in spots like this but given the likelyness of villain flatting pre I think QT/QJ would be my cutoff here.



Looks fine/best.





Same here I guess, MR/call looks better than openjam.



Don't mind this since he doesn't seem too aggro before (apart from the openjamming button but that's std for 95% of players) and you'll be able to stab a lot postflop.



Don't mind a limp here again though openjamming looks fine as well.



Would probably bet more than 1bb; t100 just looks like a stab to a lot of players, t110 for example will result in a decent amount more fold equity compared to what we risk.





Looks fine vs this opponent.

Cbetting might be closer than it looks since I don't think he's defending a lot of the weaker crap/lower cards this shallow really.

Also, cbet is unnecessarry big if you ask me.






Solid flop.




Stop getting 3-high imo.


Weird from him here.


A bit too weak/shallow to limp here, esp since you jammed previous hand I expect him to jam a lot over your limp.



Nh, gg.


Some comments while rypac and me went over it on msn:

rypac: hand 24 is interesting
i wouldn't deviate from the sizing any smaller just bc 1) half pot is already a good size and not really large 2) this guy has been folding such a % post that he could very well be folding weak pairs and some draws that most call with
so doing anything to encourage him to (correctly) call with something like 86 here or whatever is not encouraged
i mean normally going less looks ok, but i don't see the reason to do it here considering how often he's folded and the possible implications of going smaller
like, if it's not broke, don't fix it especially when the "fix" is to save chips and you're already only half pot cbetting
just from the risk reward standpoint, going less doesn't seem near worth it... double barrel points are good too, the last thing i want to do vs this guy is double barrel weak hands lol
shouldn't he bet the river too
it's kind of **** stacks i guess, but still seems to be value here
mientjeuh: with all those medium hearts out there?
rypac: maybe i'm just being results oriented tho
mientjeuh: only hearts that are worse
are 6h4h3h2h
and i dont see too much of them in his range
4flush board
he may be ******ed
but i dont think he calls with like 2nd pair
even for 1/3 pot



rypac: rypac zegt:
hand 30
do you really fold T2o vs him there?
he's still been so weak post
mientjeuh: T2o is like
really really ****ty
i think it's like
keep the fish happy
imo
like
there's a huge difference against a fish
with raising 90%
or 100%
they'll notice
trust me
if we fold once or twice
which keeps him from jamming 10% more
i think it's more valuable
not to raise 100%



rypac: i think you let him off too easy on hand 36 prolly
if anything you might be encouraging villain to play this way
he may not move to fit or fold or 3bet as often as he will now if you keep minraising, and honestly if i had to guess i'd say MR is going to be a more profitable play than open shoving vs him anyways

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6000th post weeeeeeeeeeeee

for my carpal tunnel, ima coach bluemage for free and we're gonna start tonight with a vid review if everything goes well
plan is to get him up to 80s/100s level this year

great stuff man.
please keep going this HH reviews 4 ever.
its pure gold

this is fantastic

Very good read, thanks for doing these spamz0r.

standard spamz quality. Truly the best strat threads itf.

going to make fun of barewire about the first hand for a while though

a3 is a trouble hand mers

no its not, only if u over play it bad post, most important thing at that stage is calling to develop reads other than strength of hand/kicker

great review again***

Thanks for the insight Spam, really good stuff for a cash player.

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gl bluemage. I dumped a lot of my BR on moving to 80's and 100's before I should've. Having a coach is gonna help. Play Good, Run Good.

lol awesoem HH review as per usual spamz... you can def tell that the guy playing it is 12 years old though... im glad you could help him out a little!

no love for cbetting the 57dd hand? boards not terrible but its wet enough that and I don't expect random players to float kt or ax on that board.

Great work again, Spamz

Sick, nice score Bluemage!

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crimsonchin told me on msn that he wanted to 3barrel the KQ85x board with 4 hearts (well, he wanted to 3barrel brick rivers, not necess hearts) though given that this opponent folded to like 8/8 cbets or smth so far, i really don't see the urge to like bet/bet/jam into toppair+ on the river over half the time (i'm assuming we would bet half pot on the flop so his range is not weird)
turnbet can be okay i guess given that we have a decent amount of equity against a portion of his range and we will fold out 3rd pair hands with no heart or even Qx without a heart if his kicker sucks (esp after our small/weird flopbet), but once he calls there, his range for getting to river is like Kx, flushes, JT with a heart and Qx with a heart and maybe some two pairs or even like QQ+ hands sometimes and he's I don't see the point in jamming into a range which consists of a lot of nut type hands (and once bad nits have a hand, trying to get them off is really suicidal)
thoughts on this?

This is hand 24 for those who don't want to scan through to find it or didn't notice rypac's comments.

I was wondering what you thought about a small bet like 200 on the river? I think he is passive enough that bet/folding seems fine and super unlikely that he would CR anyways here. He might just look us up with tp or a smaller heart of which there are probably more smaller hearts than bigger in his range. He would probably have to have exactly A8 to have the ace of hearts as even nitty players will 3b AK/AQ so that leaves, Q, J, T better than us and 6, 4, 3, 2 worse. Since he is calling our minraises oop so often I think they are all fairly likely whereas vs a saner opponent probably not.

Yeah I like a small river v-bet too

i really think betting river in that hand is really results oriented given that there's really not that much lower hearts in his range; QJThhh are WAY more likely; even AhJx or AhTx isnt unlikely, given that he called twice and i really dont think we beat his callingrange even when we bet small although he could like look us up with TP or two pair SOME percentage of the time but we dont know that
more interested in whether people think 3barreling would be good here instead of 1 or 2 barreling...

also, not a fan of 3barreling given that once we get called we know **** about what to do on river really if we DO bink, which just sucks... i'd be way more inclined to double/tripple barrel a hand like AhTs here because if we hit J or heart, we have the nuts, or close enough to the nuts, and Ax will likely be an out as well in which case we can sucker bet then to get call from Kx or smth...

Hand 9. Villain had 3x his 2 last buttons and this time he 2x, isnt 3bet light here good play? Usually he has weaker range here? In lower limits you get so much folds here, even against very loose players...

Great stuff as usual Spamz0r