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Old 05-15-2010, 01:39 AM   #1
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$84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

I immediately recognized his name as I've seen him post on here (u cnat spel) so I knew he was solid. This was the second hand of the match. He stabbed oop in a limped pot on the first hand so obv no real reads. Is this ever a fold?

Full Tilt, $80 + $4 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
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BTN: 1,520
Hero (BB): 1,480

Pre-Flop: (30) 4 K dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN raises to 40, Hero calls 20

Flop: (80) T 4 K (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 40, Hero raises to 120, BTN calls 80

Turn: (320) 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets 160, BTN raises to 480

Results: 640 Pot (640 Rake)
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:04 AM   #2
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Re: $84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

sucks to get raised but ship, realistically he has two hands that beat us (k9 qj) and optimistically theres a bunch of draws there as well. im sure hes aggro enough that shoving here cant be bad. bad turn card tho, no doubt

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Old 05-15-2010, 02:16 AM   #3
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Re: $84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

will post my thoughts/hand after a few people have responded.
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:17 AM   #4
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im never folding here. shippity ship.
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:22 AM   #5
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i dont know much about villain, but im never folding here.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:04 AM   #6
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hate your bet sizing
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:12 AM   #7
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Re: $84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

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hate your bet sizing
what would have you done instead?
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:17 AM   #8
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what would have you done instead?
c/r to 140 or 160. Bet turn maybe 240ish~

this is what I PM'd OP basically:

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hey, I didn't answer you because I have my chat ban (lol I said fk u to rogabee because I knew he wasn't folding to my 3rd barrel.. whenever rogabee snap calls flop/turn, he is very weak. however, river was a brick and I knew he wasn't folding 3rd pair. so I cursed at him and checked just to find out he did have 3rd pair. usually he folds to my barrels but oh well..)

Anyways, you were actually ahead. I'd never fold K4 there. I had a huge draw, which I was calling off for sure. Open-ended straight draw + flush draw. Given your betsize and given I have no reads on you, I think it's pretty standard to raise it up with (presumeably) fold equity and equity. I had the intention of shoving a bunch of rivers if I missed.

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Old 05-15-2010, 03:21 AM   #9
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Re: $84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

Fold pre if you don't know what to do here.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:24 AM   #10
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Re: $84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

Really think turn is a fold because of your bet sizing.Don't think villain raises KQ type hand here,plus because of your bet sizing he will be more inclined to call with hands like AQhh,AJhh or pair+hearts. Can't really think of a range you are getting enough odds to shove with that bet sizing.Also doubt he is floating that flop with like 7h8h second hand of the match.

I'd make it like 140 on flop,~280 on turn/never fold.

Lol saw results,still don't think his range is wide enough that you can ship. Just woken up tho,might not be thinking clearly.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:28 AM   #11
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Re: $84 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

Stack off ATC against Coffee, didn't read HH, don't need to. Biggest spewtard of all time.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:34 AM   #12
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Stack off ATC against Coffee, didn't read HH, don't need to. Biggest spewtard of all time.
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lolz, that's a compliment coming from you. Last I remember, I beat you into the pot with Queen High on AK26J because you decided to go monkey with 34o. I'm the one who *should* take your advice on the "stack off ATC". Actually, you go monkey every single hand you play against me. You're crazier than MUCKEMSAYWAA (who, btw, 3bets 40%, c/r's 50%, double barrels 75% and 3barrel shoves 99%).
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:34 AM   #13
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who is son of john?
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:37 AM   #14
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Pokertracker/HEM/ect has made flaming more interesting
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:37 AM   #15
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who is son of john?
John's Son obv.
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