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 HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz  HUSNG vs Coffee n Ciggz

05-15-2010 , 01:39 AM
I immediately recognized his name as I've seen him post on here (u cnat spel) so I knew he was solid. This was the second hand of the match. He stabbed oop in a limped pot on the first hand so obv no real reads. Is this ever a fold?

Full Tilt, $80 + $4 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 1,520
Hero (BB): 1,480

Pre-Flop: (30) 4 K dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN raises to 40, Hero calls 20

Flop: (80) T 4 K (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 40, Hero raises to 120, BTN calls 80

Turn: (320) 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets 160, BTN raises to 480

Results: 640 Pot (640 Rake)
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05-15-2010 , 02:04 AM
sucks to get raised but ship, realistically he has two hands that beat us (k9 qj) and optimistically theres a bunch of draws there as well. im sure hes aggro enough that shoving here cant be bad. bad turn card tho, no doubt

Last edited by Joe Pulaski; 05-15-2010 at 02:09 AM.
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05-15-2010 , 02:16 AM
will post my thoughts/hand after a few people have responded.
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05-15-2010 , 02:17 AM
im never folding here. shippity ship.
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05-15-2010 , 02:22 AM
i dont know much about villain, but im never folding here.
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05-15-2010 , 03:04 AM
hate your bet sizing
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05-15-2010 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Barewire
hate your bet sizing
what would have you done instead?
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05-15-2010 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by checkm8
what would have you done instead?
c/r to 140 or 160. Bet turn maybe 240ish~

this is what I PM'd OP basically:

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hey, I didn't answer you because I have my chat ban (lol I said fk u to rogabee because I knew he wasn't folding to my 3rd barrel.. whenever rogabee snap calls flop/turn, he is very weak. however, river was a brick and I knew he wasn't folding 3rd pair. so I cursed at him and checked just to find out he did have 3rd pair. usually he folds to my barrels but oh well..)

Anyways, you were actually ahead. I'd never fold K4 there. I had a huge draw, which I was calling off for sure. Open-ended straight draw + flush draw. Given your betsize and given I have no reads on you, I think it's pretty standard to raise it up with (presumeably) fold equity and equity. I had the intention of shoving a bunch of rivers if I missed.

Later.

Last edited by u cnat spel; 05-15-2010 at 03:27 AM.
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05-15-2010 , 03:21 AM
Fold pre if you don't know what to do here.
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05-15-2010 , 03:24 AM
Really think turn is a fold because of your bet sizing.Don't think villain raises KQ type hand here,plus because of your bet sizing he will be more inclined to call with hands like AQhh,AJhh or pair+hearts. Can't really think of a range you are getting enough odds to shove with that bet sizing.Also doubt he is floating that flop with like 7h8h second hand of the match.

I'd make it like 140 on flop,~280 on turn/never fold.

Lol saw results,still don't think his range is wide enough that you can ship. Just woken up tho,might not be thinking clearly.
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05-15-2010 , 03:28 AM
Stack off ATC against Coffee, didn't read HH, don't need to. Biggest spewtard of all time.
/end thread
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05-15-2010 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Son Of John
Stack off ATC against Coffee, didn't read HH, don't need to. Biggest spewtard of all time.
/end thread
lolz, that's a compliment coming from you. Last I remember, I beat you into the pot with Queen High on AK26J because you decided to go monkey with 34o. I'm the one who *should* take your advice on the "stack off ATC". Actually, you go monkey every single hand you play against me. You're crazier than MUCKEMSAYWAA (who, btw, 3bets 40%, c/r's 50%, double barrels 75% and 3barrel shoves 99%).
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05-15-2010 , 03:34 AM
who is son of john?
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05-15-2010 , 03:37 AM
Pokertracker/HEM/ect has made flaming more interesting
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05-15-2010 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski
who is son of john?
John's Son obv.
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05-15-2010 , 03:38 AM
no but really whats your sn?
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05-15-2010 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by u cnat spel
lolz, that's a compliment coming from you. Last I remember, I beat you into the pot with Queen High on AK25J because you decided to go monkey with 34o. I'm the one who *should* take your advice on the "stack off ATC". Actually, you go monkey every single hand you play against me. You're crazier than MUCKEMSAYWAA (who, btw, 3bets 40%, c/r's 50%, double barrels 75% and 3barrel shoves 99%).
34o is a str8...

FISH
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05-15-2010 , 03:39 AM
shouldnt you beat somewhere forcing all the bad regs out of lobbies? say your sn or this is just stupid.
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05-15-2010 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Son Of John
34o is a str8...

FISH
LOL @ u editing my post. s1ck life..

4 tables $100 go
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05-15-2010 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski
no but really whats your sn?
I don't really SN share since no one would know who I am 'cause I dont play on FTP.
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05-15-2010 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by u cnat spel
LOL @ u editing my post. s1ck life..

4 tables $100 go
Super tempting Coffee but would be dumb since I introduced you to HUSNGs and I know your game better than Boston knows how to blow a 3-0 lead in the playoffs...
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05-15-2010 , 03:42 AM
lols wow, don't make me post HHs =p .. god knows your image on 2p2 would be forever ruined.
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05-15-2010 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TakeHerOnACruise
Fold pre if you don't know what to do here.
This wasn't very helpful.

Well I ended up folding and I'm hitting myself in the head now that I've got others' opinions. My reasoning for folding was that I could only see him flatting my raise on the flop with QJ, a king, a ten, or a flush draw. The 9 obviously made the straight and after he raised my turn bet I figured he either hit the straight or made a better 2 pair since I couldn't really see him trying to stack off with KQ, KJ, or a flush draw. I never really took into consideration combo draws and really wish I had...duh. Idk I personally don't try to stack off with combo draws on the turn early in the match, but thats just me. I think a mix of it being early on in the match with no reads and playing someone who I immediately recognized as a very solid winner threw my game off.
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05-15-2010 , 03:43 AM
dude, folding here is just baddddddd
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05-15-2010 , 03:45 AM
Many games on FTP under an account i only use to play him sort of...
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