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Old 06-13-2012, 09:09 AM   #16
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

shove.

If he folds your red line goes up. If he calls your blue line goes down.

You can't lose
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:50 AM   #17
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

i prefer shoving here then c/c. not an option to c/f here

i think you get more calls when you shove because usually people don't call with a bare fd ott in 3bet pot. he has more pair str8 draws and pair fd, fdsd combo ott of which all these hands will check back the river and these hands might decide to hero call as well.

well played, now shove
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:38 AM   #18
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

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i prefer shoving here then c/c. not an option to c/f here

i think you get more calls when you shove because usually people don't call with a bare fd ott in 3bet pot. he has more pair str8 draws and pair fd, fdsd combo ott of which all these hands will check back the river and these hands might decide to hero call as well.

well played, now shove
interesting point i hadnt thought when buildin ranges although most of the flush draws i included had added equity ott
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:29 AM   #19
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

check call turn is fine i guess... but i still prefer betting the turn because i see too many hands betting turn/checking river as opposed to betting turn, check/calling river.

i still prefer bet bet bet

if you check call turn and shove river on say a deuce river, its so bad you shd go back to nl50
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:58 AM   #20
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

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check call turn is fine i guess... but i still prefer betting the turn because i see too many hands betting turn/checking river as opposed to betting turn, check/calling river.

i still prefer bet bet bet

if you check call turn and shove river on say a deuce river, its so bad you shd go back to nl50
Um no lol. You may be the one that belongs at nl50. A deuce river may be the best river to shove if you are taking this line. Im not saying its the best line to take but there will always be times too. People probably snap call 10x here a ton on a deuce river
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:30 PM   #21
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

i would continue on river and shove it
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:08 AM   #22
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Re: 600nl 3b pot top set on 4straight board

essentially readless i think its super close between c/c and ai. i prob go ai though
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