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02-13-2014 , 08:11 PM
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players


BB: $85.03 (170.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $132.15 (264.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K Q
Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 6 T Q (2 players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($13) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.75, BB raises to $19.50, Hero calls $11.75

River: ($52) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $59.03 and is all-in, hero?

V is kinda tilted, and trash talk in the chat, how bad he's been running bla bla, been playing for an hour, and it's the first he ever x/r being the agressor
he started the game 3 betting a lot , and then stopped, and at this point he was 3betting a lot again
87/65/35 3bet:34.7

chat: "am i being coolered?"
"fold 1 time" he said
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02-13-2014 , 09:35 PM
Not a very deep and serious analysis, and might be too specific but given the chat, I'd put him on TT.
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02-14-2014 , 03:33 PM
bump?
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02-15-2014 , 02:44 AM
Fold river, and the hand is wp. Except bet bigger on the turn. That would be the standard way to play. You could make an exploitative call if you think he is bluffing too much atm.
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02-15-2014 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fityfmi
Fold river, and the hand is wp. Except bet bigger on the turn. That would be the standard way to play. You could make an exploitative call if you think he is bluffing too much atm.
yeah i think folding might be exploitable, still vs this guy i think he's firing river with all his range on that card, so why call turn/fold river, i don't like folding turn, and yeah he could be bluffing here sometimes...
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02-16-2014 , 03:13 AM
Raise flop, fold river, pre/turn are fine.
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02-16-2014 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
yeah i think folding might be exploitable
Why do you think that? I disagree. I think calling would be exploitable.

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Originally Posted by MartimC
still vs this guy i think he's firing river with all his range on that card, so why call turn/fold river
You think he's firing river with all his range on that card, but you don't know what that range is? I think you're just making stuff up.

Call turn/fold river is best against non-terrible opponents or against terrible opponents the precise nature of whose terribleness you are not yet sure of. You do not know the precise way in which this person is terrible (or even if he is in fact terrible - as betting 100% of his range on this river would be), and so you should not seek to play offense yet. Stick with defense until you have a better idea of what he's doing.

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Originally Posted by MartimC
i don't like folding turn, and yeah he could be bluffing here sometimes...
Definitely don't fold turn, and of course he should be bluffing here sometimes. So what? You shouldn't call with every bluff-catcher unless you think he is over-bluffing.
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02-16-2014 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Spladle
Raise flop, fold river, pre/turn are fine.
raise flat a 3 bet?
call down on which runnouts?
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02-16-2014 , 03:35 AM
yeah he seems to fire a lot in 3 bet pots, because i had been floating pretty wide, so yeah really weird line by him and i think he can be bluffing here
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02-16-2014 , 11:47 AM
why are we raising flop spladle? doesn't feel like our hand is strong enough to want to raise, we also weaken our flatting range, and there's no big protection reason to raise either
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02-23-2014 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
raise flat a 3 bet?
call down on which runnouts?
Probably should fold to a 3-bet, actually.
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02-23-2014 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kaby
why are we raising flop spladle? doesn't feel like our hand is strong enough to want to raise, we also weaken our flatting range, and there's no big protection reason to raise either
It's definitely strong enough to raise for value. We do weaken our flatting range by raising, but I think the trade-off is worth it in this case. I do raise in these spots (in position, 3-bet pot, deep enough for 4 bets, very wet board) much more frequently than most people though, and it's certainly possible that I'm wrong to.
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02-24-2014 , 03:49 PM
why would you want to raise fold that flop, he can def 3 bet some draws and we can obv be folding the best hand , and we blow our equity vs AA KK and we get him off his bluffs
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