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Old 05-19-2012, 08:47 PM   #1
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50NL River Jam

I have a very loose agressive maniac image at the table i set this image and beginin of match...

Im not givin a cooler story im askin the question am i too deep to ship the river? Villian is thinkin reg am i gettin called by worse enough?

Should i be bet folding the river? (I dont think id fold anyway(maybe some days )) but should i be? A friend says im too deep i should be jammin 84 and gettin called by 33 that nothing worse is callin me.. yet i say AK AA 85 86 87 89 810 j8 q8 a8 is!

I do look kinda setty tho, however i was quite tilted in the match and was bluffin quite a bit and when i did he always had it so i gave a maniac image v well.


    IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12925532

    Hero (SB): $213.87 (427.7 bb)
    BB: $197.69 (395.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 3
    Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

    Flop: ($10) 3 K 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

    Turn: ($22) 4 (2 players)
    BB bets $14, Hero raises to $37, BB calls $23

    River: ($96) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $165.87 and is all-in, BB calls $149.69 and is all-in

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    I have 80% eq vs (KK,88,44,A8s,K8s,Q8s,J8s,T8s,98s,84s,A8o,K8o,Q8o, J8o,T8o,98o,85o+)

    but maybe hes not 3beting offsuit 8s

    so vs (KK,88,44,A8s,K8s,Q8s,J8s,T8s,98s,84s+)

    I have 64% equity which i think is the more likely figure. So correct river shuv? Im lookin for a serious answer not.. nh ul or thats poker bla bla...

    Cos my line does look v strong..?

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    Old 05-20-2012, 05:42 AM   #2
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

    If you have a very loose maniac image, I guess you can 3bet turn.
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    Old 05-20-2012, 06:03 AM   #3
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

    you should raise flop if your image is maniacal. how you expect to get in 400bb in 3b pot?
    raise flop, bet turn huge, ship river?
    correct me if iam wrong.
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    Old 05-20-2012, 08:17 AM   #4
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

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    If you have a very loose maniac image, I guess you can 3bet turn.
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    Old 05-20-2012, 10:57 AM   #5
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

    There really is no question here at all. Flatting flop or raising is fine, I tend to flat here. Turn should have been a bigger raise to like 46 or even bigger so river isnt such a big jam but we are jamming river here EVERYTIME. /thread
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    Old 05-20-2012, 12:26 PM   #6
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

    I'd just raise the flop. You have a maniac image, and you're super deep. Just start chucking the money in early as poss.
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    Old 05-20-2012, 05:53 PM   #7
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

    yet he still not callin with nothin i dont think hes likely to play back at me, hes just waiting for value hands
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    Old 05-20-2012, 06:04 PM   #8
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    There really is no question here at all. Flatting flop or raising is fine, I tend to flat here. Turn should have been a bigger raise to like 46 or even bigger so river isnt such a big jam but we are jamming river here EVERYTIME. /thread
    I dont think im ever bluffin raising that big tho? so why that big?
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    Old 05-20-2012, 06:31 PM   #9
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    I dont think im ever bluffin raising that big tho? so why that big?
    You have a maniac image...
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    Old 05-20-2012, 07:06 PM   #10
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    You have a maniac image...
    8x wouldnt flat $46 i dont think? Am i rasing this big as a bluff too?

    BEAT: I just sat out AA in an MTT replyin to this post .. 2 people get it all in pre i would have held... 2 hands later i have KK folds to my BB

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    Old 05-20-2012, 07:19 PM   #11
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    8x wouldnt flat $46 i dont think? Am i rasing this big as a bluff too?

    BEAT: I just sat out AA in an MTT replyin to this post .. 2 people get it all in pre i would have held... 2 hands later i have KK folds to my BB

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    At 50NL you dont need to worry about merging your hands
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    Old 05-21-2012, 12:18 AM   #12
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    At 50NL you dont need to worry about merging your hands
    U think regs at 50nl are capable of recognising some raising bigger for val and smaller for blufs?
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    Old 05-21-2012, 08:46 AM   #13
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    U think regs at 50nl are capable of recognising some raising bigger for val and smaller for blufs?
    Your 400bbs deep. The deeper the game goes, the more Id expect every raise in a 3 bet pot to be bigger than usual. Not a spot you really need to worry about except making it larger on the turn and for sure getting it in on the river. Just a cooler
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    Old 05-21-2012, 03:05 PM   #14
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    Re: 50NL River Jam

    he is not betting J8 on the turn and then calling a raise. your stoves are terrible.
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    Old 05-22-2012, 04:59 AM   #15
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    he is not betting J8 on the turn and then calling a raise. your stoves are terrible.
    Oh god ur so right lol i must of been thinkin he made trips on the turn when i was stoveing thanks haha
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