Hero (SB): 323.64 BB
BB: 256.04 BB (VPIP: 68.47, PFR: 50.57, 3Bet Preflop: 32.21, Hands: 1,452)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 8

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 9 5 2
BB bets 4.22 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, BB calls 8.78 BB

Turn: (31 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 31 BB, Hero calls 31 BB

River: (93 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 155.54 BB, Hero raises to 277.14 BB and is all-in

not only the river reraise

cant win if you fold!

The flop raise is pretty bad. There will be some people here who are going to tell you it's not so bad because of the backdoor draws but it is bad regardless of what they say, especially this deep.

The BBs turn lead is really odd. Calling is correct as played. The river looks terrible. How do you rep a boat? If you had a set or two pair on the turn and he led into you, you would very likely be raising here so when you call and the river bricks the draws, you don't rep a strong enough value range to raise the river. The only hand you could rep is TT but that's just one combo and extremely unlikely. If I was the BB on the river (but I wouldn't lead the turn) and I had 9x I would call you.

His river overbet is polarised and if he were a good player (I am not sure how many good players would lead this turn on this board though) he might figure you can't really have much after you don't raise his turn bet. You represent a hand like A9 that may fold to this river overbet. Although if I were in your shoes and I had A9 I would seriously consider calling him since I don't see what Ts he called the flop with, led the turn for pot with, and now are polar betting this river given that your range is so weak. So from him I would have thought his bluffs and his value hands, if balanced, would be more like 60BB. I would probably call with any 9x but against an extremely good player he might overbet this with a hand like A9 expecting to be called by worse 9x, which is not a bad play really since he knows I don't represent anything too strong by this line and I know he doesn't represent anything too strong by this line since he didn't 3 bet the flop. The draws brick so both our ranges should be capped so in that case he can bet his capped range vs my capped range to get me to fold a split or call with worse since if we both can only have 9x almost always (except for the occasional boat or something silly like that) he can shove A9 or even K9 and is almost always good.

This might be over thinking it and he could be a donk and you certainly did not play that well so it could just be a case of pressing buttons.

so the flop r is bad regardless of what anyone says, but it's correct to call the turn pot donk with the very bottom of our range? razvaarrrr

Oops for some reason I thought he had an OESD on the turn. Yea calling a gut shot vs the turn donk is -EV definitely (but it's not as -EV as people might think since the Q is going to be alive some of the time). I tend to skim over these posts when I really should pay more attention. If he had a hand like QJ it's a call, but you're still going to lose money on the hand because of the flop action, but it's going to be more +EV than folding. J8 is probs around break even on a call just because you have less high cards to hit because the J will be dirty some of the time. Obviously I don't spend a lot of time trying to work out this spot though because I tend not to get there but now he is there, it's a fold since he only has the gutshot.

Flop raise is ok, fold turn.

At 1452 hands we should have a really good idea of what his flop donking range is. We should furthermore have a really good idea of what he is likely to be doing on various turn cards, especially bricks, when he donks flop. Flatting can be great, raising can be great. Folding can be great, it all depends.

OTT calling is the worst option no matter what and the river is fire hose velocity spew.

I'll go out on a limb and say that bluffing half of your 95 and absolutely nothing else is still total insanity given river bet size and the resultant odds a shove lays. Reads could prove me wrong.

Reads could prove me wrong, and ffs we should have a few after 1452 hands.

Your edit explanations always make me lmao.

Yeah. Without any other explanation/reads listed I just don't understand why we are taking this line. I hate the idea of generating a spot where I can be losing my deep stack against a player 3betting >30% for little to no reason.

River shove is dependent on how villain views you. If villain is very disciplined and capable of realizing how ******ed a bluff would be here, then this could be ok. Chances are that is not the case.

Call on the turn seems ok, but I'm not that happy. Lot of rivers that we hit we dont get paid all that well or are crushed. If we have a read that his turn donks are weak, then easy call or raise.

Post some more god damn reads, as was said before. How can you expect us to give informed advice if you cant take 5 minutes to write a decent post?

turn call is horrible

Flop raise i don`t love it but it is ok, fold turn and what you think he is playing and fold on the river?

what the actual ****?

Flop 3bet seems fine but the flat ott makes no sense, just fold imo.