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Old 08-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #1
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50nl Hu vs Reg

Sorry my hems broke so Ive had to write this all out. Villian is a reg dont have too many reads apart from he's a bit of a station, will squeeze occasionally and 3 bet-fold a few paired boards he seemed to up the aggresion as the game got on but never seen him get too out of line.

This first hand was one of the first 3bet pots, considering I saw him bet half pot with a set otr, otr here I was a bit lost I dont think that he can have that many 5's in his range but then in my perceived range I have pretty much no 5's which makes it easy for him to bluff with missed flush draws, and value bet sets, but I cant find that many hands he can have for value other than a set or AJ, Im not sure he bets one pair for value otr.

Stack 50 eff

$.25/$.50

Preflop:
Villian is button and raises to $1
Hero Raises to $3.50 with 1010

Flop:2 4 J
POT$7
Hero bets $4
Villian Calls

Turn: A
POT:$16
Hero bets $8.50
Villian Calls

River: 3
POT$33
Hero checks
Villian bets $20
Hero folds

Hand 2.


$0.25/$0.50

Preflop:
Villian is button Villian raises to $1.5
Hero Calls with Q10

Flop:10 9 3
POT$3
Hero Checks
Villian bets $2
Hero Calls

Turn: 3
POT:$7
Villian bets $5
Hero Calls

River: 7
POT$17
Villian bets $11



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Old 08-02-2012, 10:03 PM   #2
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Re: 50nl Hu vs Reg

I think hand 1 is a fold, you say hes a station which means hell be floating this flop a ton, which keep alot of his Ax hands in. Are you telling me hes a reg that wont value bet one pair A's on this river when checked to?

Hand 2, I guess this is just a call/call/call spot against a relative unknown.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:16 PM   #3
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Re: 50nl Hu vs Reg

I check turn in hand 1 probably and call hand 2
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:08 AM   #4
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Re: 50nl Hu vs Reg

hand one I a check turn is best. as played, call river is very obvious

hand two is close, just go with your gut in the match
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:05 AM   #5
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hand one I a check turn is best. as played, call river is very obvious

hand two is close, just go with your gut in the match
Yeah i just hate losing control of pots, if i check the turn Im checking the river, and its so easy for him to bluff me off because i almost never have an ace and i cant call the turn if he bets really even when he's going to do that with most flush draws and floats would be pretty retarded for me to call turn then hope he gives up otr.

Although betting this turn Im not achieveing a lot other than fold his air floats which i cant assume that he has and most probably doesnt. I suppose im stopping a Jx from value betting the river. It kind of does seem like a call as played it seems like he only has missed flush draws and two pair+ but I dont know that he'll bluff a missed flush draw here, he may only bet 2pair+ (unlikely)
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:08 AM   #6
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Re: 50nl Hu vs Reg

hand 1, prob a call dont really like it tho.

hand 2, meh eatheir is fine, leaning towards calling off more tho.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:11 PM   #7
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:22 PM   #8
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:36 PM   #9
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Re: 50nl Hu vs Reg

yes, (1) ofc your perceived range includes ton of Tx hands (2) yes he is bluffing here some % of the time (3) it's a close decision on this river card because some other stuff that didn't have us beat before got there (4) he could be vbetting some worse + (2) so click call (5) nh villain.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:14 AM   #10
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hand one I a check turn is best. as played, call river is very obvious

hand two is close, just go with your gut in the match
It's tough to say that calling river in hand 1 is "very obv" cause as someone else pointed out, villain is gonna float flop with most Ax hands. I think c/c turn is best to at least allow villain to bluff the A if he was floating, then prob c/f river I guess. I see what hero is saying, weird to c/c turn if we're planning on c/f river anyway. Still, only alternative is to assume that villain was A) floating and B ) has Ax, and fold. That sorta sucks, there is a bunch of floats and draws we still beat.

As for hand two, I suppose this is normally a call/fold spot, but we could c/r river to bluff larger Tx hands because we could conceivably show up with a backdoor flush here which we would often check OOP. Then again that's prob gonna look super FOS cause only hand that could have a flush is Tx clubs, and if villain's got the Tc then that's def not gonna work, and there's a 1/2 chance that he does if he's got TP or better like it seems.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:24 AM   #11
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yes, (1) ofc your perceived range includes ton of Tx hands (2) yes he is bluffing here some % of the time (3) it's a close decision on this river card because some other stuff that didn't have us beat before got there (4) he could be vbetting some worse + (2) so click call (5) nh villain.
meh for your (4). Only worse vbetting hands that we beat are JT and T8, T6 is pushing it, and 9x seems way too thin since we're showing up with Tx a ton here and villain knows it.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:03 AM   #12
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^ well that's how i define "some worse"
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:44 AM   #13
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Hand 2 definitely folding readless. Hand 1 I'm not sure what you're doing turn seems atrocious.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:31 PM   #14
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^ well that's how i define "some worse"
Fair enough. Just seems negligible to me. Anyway, minor point regardless.
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:41 AM   #15
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^ it's a close decision, so putting a few combos in his range that he might be betting for value with helps, doesn't it? Also, what's up w/ T6 is pushing it?
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