LOL results exactly as I predicted; 3bet and soul down to river.

How is the 3bet sizing? Dhcg was suggesting hero 5x or 6x when 3betting here.

6x is def too big, 3 is too small, 4.5 prolly optimal, maybe 4x.

I still think 3bis a leak but if villain calls alot Id go 5x, and if not that much prolly 3.5x/4x

At those stacks any bigger than 3.5x is spew imo. You have less than 100bbs ffs. You know people 3bet 3x into 10x even at 100-150bbs right? Obv he's a station so we should adjust but I doubt that extra bb or 2 will change the way he plays playable hands and we actually want him to call more with hands that are annoying to play postflop (like K5 K7 type hands).

You don't get it DHCG, we're not 3betting strictly as a bluff OR value. If you make it 5x you're turning it into a complete bluff against someone who's a station, and that's bad. You're trying to put your opponent into high variance spots that he may become more transparent in.

Why on EARTH would you 3bet 4x 5x? Holy **** have you played any online cash before in your life? :x And at 70bbs deep too. SPR so bad.

so 3b 3x> 3b to 5x here vs station?

and folding>calling>3b?

Need more reads/game dynamics to know. I think the three are closish, like calling's not bad if as said he's really transparent postflop.

I 3bet this spot fairly often with no rake and no hit and running. Any money he wins next hand means we play deeper the next hand with me being IP. npnpnpnpnpnp.

3betting to 5x seems horrible. You're actually making him play better by forcing him to fold his bad hands and only call with his better hands. Why would you want him to do that...? Also you make it so if he 4bets he wins more money. Wat. Why would you give him more free money for when he has AJ+ and so on?

You WANT him to call with his bad hands. There are spots where you 3bet A5o to get folds from a nit, but this is obviously not one of them. You're just basically 3betting ATC, but this ATC happens to be the best hand often and also often have an over if not an actual pair+, so you have more equity when barreling against his weak range, when not trying to go for showdown.

I dont want to play A5o vs most hand OOP sry. Disagree with you there

yeah but you have to add a caveat here about the player being good... if the player is bad or a tellbox live reads are super reliable

Does this mean we are not defending A5o ~75bb deep vs 2.5x btn raise? If so, would it change at all if this is a husng?

This thread is awesome