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08-01-2012, 09:55 AM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sweden
Posts: 968
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300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
(THIS EQUALS TO 300NL, THE MONEY IS SWEDISH SEK NOT $)
Boss, $10/$20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13630382
Hero (BB): $2,281.53 (114.1 bb)
BTN: $2,701.03 (135.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7  A
BTN raises to $50, Hero raises to $200, BTN calls $140
Flop: ($400) Q  K  6 (2 players)
Hero bets $260, BTN raises to $580, Hero raises to $2,081.53, BTN folds
V:79/65/2,4AF, 13 3b, 63f23b, f2cb 33, raise CB 29,
Hero: 53/41/3.4AF, 17 3b, 84 CB, 100 % CB flop in 3b pots (4/4)
When he raises me it looks pretty FOS, it looks like he is on some kind of BS draw or has a hand like AJ where he raise flop and if i call just ch behind OTT too get 2 free cards.
If he had KQo would he really raise me here? No i doubt it, he is IP and im sure he would just call OTF and then if i ch OTT bet, i find it hard to see V raise me with a value hand here very often. There is many draws out there but it is a 3b pot and if he flopped a nice hand he will still get my stack till river if he just calls + he keep my bluffs in. Therefore i dont think my shove is a spazz, and i do actually have A high witch is some equity in case he calls.
Would like to hear some thoughts about this hand
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08-01-2012, 10:28 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 469
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
The "why would he ever raise for value here?" logic is very flawed, you are just guessing he has no value range here, it could very well be true but right now you are just guessing. Saying he is a reg therefor he has this kinda range in this spot, is pretty ridiculous.
On the other hand, unless you 3bet extremely wide, your range includes a lot of hands that are gonna contnue, as a result he should be discouraged to raise that much complete air, I'm not saying he's never going to do that, but it could be not enough air for the shove to be profitable.
PS. Do the math. Don't post results like a noob.
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08-01-2012, 12:02 PM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 794
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
why would he not raise the flop with his value hands??? there's a flush and straight draw out there!!!!!
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08-01-2012, 01:39 PM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sweden
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
Lol, ofc im "guessing" how can i ever be 100% sure on something?
If he would hit this flop i think he would atleast just call OTF and THEN raise turn when IP like this.
Also i always click the "dont show results" checkmark and then i don't edit anything from the HH.
I dont think he is raising this flop with his value hands very often because:
1. He can call flop, call turn, and call river and still get my whole stack.
2. If he raises with a value hand, he will fold out my bluffs that i plan on double/triple barrel.
3. I had an aggro image, why wouldn't he just call with his AK and let me do the betting for him?
4. In this hand he raises very small OTF witch looks pretty FOS.
5. He is IP.
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08-01-2012, 03:09 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,649
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
Thats a 2013 Move der sonnnn
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08-01-2012, 07:00 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,325
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
I wonder why the games got so much tougher.
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08-01-2012, 08:00 PM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 886
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
this is a pro move
but seriously.. to do that profitably you need to have some specific game dynamics, don't see the reason you posted this here. you are the only one who knows if the match called for it
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08-01-2012, 08:32 PM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sweden
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Yeah well sure i ofc need game dynamics to do this move and i certainly felt that i could get this guy off his hand when i 3b shoved.
But i posted the hand because im not 100% sure if its the best play. Even tho i think i played optimal i still like to hear others thoughts about hands like this one.
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08-02-2012, 06:09 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2007
Location: paying off pigeons
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
($2,281)
Hero ($2,701)
Hero posts (SB) $10
Dealt to Hero 8  A
Hero raises to $60, raises to $200, Hero calls $140
FLOP ($400) Q  K  6
bets $260, Hero raises to $580, raises to $2,081 (AI), Hero folds
wins $1,555
Small world innit
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08-02-2012, 06:13 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 469
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
This boss network looks promising....
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08-02-2012, 06:57 AM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sweden
Posts: 968
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawg
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
($2,281)
Hero ($2,701)
Hero posts (SB) $10
Dealt to Hero 8  A
Hero raises to $60, raises to $200, Hero calls $140
FLOP ($400) Q  K  6
bets $260, Hero raises to $580, raises to $2,081 (AI), Hero folds
wins $1,555
Small world innit
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LMAO is that you "EL MACO!"?
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08-02-2012, 12:47 PM
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#12
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self-banned
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,991
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
It's not boss network, its SVENSKA SPEL, the swedish governments own network. The HH-converter just believes its boss media network since SVENSKA SPEL uses the same client as the boss network.
That said, in order to be able to play there you have to have as swedish social security number, sorry guys.
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08-02-2012, 03:27 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2007
Location: paying off pigeons
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
Quote:
Originally Posted by VIVEK15
LMAO is that you "EL MACO!"?
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Yes FISHERMAN-, dont ***** out people on forums. I'll edit my post when you edit yours.
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08-02-2012, 04:18 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawg
Yes FISHERMAN-, dont ***** out people on forums. I'll edit my post when you edit yours.
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ohh sheeeet
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08-02-2012, 04:20 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,325
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Re: 300NL 3b bluff jaming flop w Ahigh in 3b pot vs reg
Quote:
Originally Posted by VIVEK15
LMAO is that you "EL MACO!"?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawg
Yes FISHERMAN-, dont ***** out people on forums. I'll edit my post when you edit yours.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TouchMeThere
ohh sheeeet
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Dang
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