Villain is some combination of a LAGfish and a station. He's definitely capable of bluffing and slowplays his monsters. We've been playing for around 300 hands. I'm up a few buy ins and have been trash talking him and showing bluffs for the past 100 hands or so to try to tilt him. How should I approach this river?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Merge, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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Hero (BB): $105.28 (421.1 bb)
SB: $40.57 (162.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T A
SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) K Q 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, SB calls $3

Turn: ($10.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

River: ($22.50) A

Not a fan of turn bet, but it's an obvious river bet against a station.

I hate the turn bet, what are you folding out?
Its gonna complicate the river a bit too, no?

I agree with Khal about the turn but disagree about the river. Its far from obvious. Can this guy be so steamed that he calls with JJ or worse? If not you can only beat Kx and maybe a few Ax combos, not many. Kx hands will usually fold, some will beat you (AK and KQ), and some may even turn into bluffs by raising you. Your getting value from a pretty small range of hands here.

A check may induce him to bet a hand you can beat, if he is steaming he may elect to run a bluff or make what he thinks is a thin value bet with Kx or Ax(but he almost never has any ace x you can beat).

I would x/c river as played. wether you can value bet or not is really a function of how steamed he is and how much of a calling station he is. I don't think it would be right very often. River bet is thin at best to begin with but what do you do when he raises? can you honestly bet flop, bet turn, bet/call river here? I wouldn't.


I think a better line would have been;
bet flop
check turn/decide
bet river

I forgot to mention that this guy does fold to double barrells a fair amount. Not necesarrily saying my turn bet was good, but in game I thought I still had FE. Based on the flow of the match I am 90% sure he calls my river bet with any King

think you answered you're own question then...

The question to consider here is how often will he bluff raise the river? If the answer is never then you must bet it and fold to a raise since he is a station. I don't think he will ever bet a worse hand if you check the river and there are no broke draws that would bluff to a check. Just hope he has kj or something and continue to rack up bluff image points.

This question sort of implies opponent is steamed. If he's steamed enough to raise you on the river then he's probably steamed enough to bluff if you x.
Disregarding the specific reads on opponent though, is anyone calling river with Kx/JJ- often enough to make this a bet? Station or not i think he bluffs more than he calls on river. Thats what it comes down to to me. If he could be taking a trappy looking line in order to bluff river he may change his mind if you bet but he may think you're scared of the ace if you check and put in a big move.
If his blff range + thin bet range(bets you can beat) is > his pay off range then you don't want to bet river.

And, yeah, OP.. you answered your own question. If he will often fold to 2 barell then maybe its OK to 2 barell, if he will pay off with Kx 90% then you bet the river. If you think Kx is most likely and that he's more likely to call then to bluff or value bet his hand then bet/fold river is pretty obv.

i still don't like it. just coz he folds a lot ott, doesn't mean he will in this situation. our hand is actually not that weak and just coz he might fold, doesn't mean he will fold better hands. I'm not sure LAGfish/station's fold pairs ott.

really is it? i'm pretty sure we have to bet here and if he's bluff-raising that much(like 22-Kx), then we just have to b/c. however is he really bluff-raising Kx, it's highly unlikely.

you know what i'm gonna make a bold statement here and say that he NEVER EVER has an Ax that you can beat, just got a feeling

b/f is the best option.

this.
and also 3bet pre is bad this deep,imo.

turn bet is bad. You have some show down value no point building the pot and if he has 2 pair or better and you hit your ace on the river now your in a tough spot if he raises. i would just check the river and try bluff catch. If you get and he raises he could have a big hand. I just played a guy who 2 barrel to much i won about 5 buy ins off him. I see a lot of poker sites teach to 2 barrel a lot especially if scare card on the turn. the problem is not when they fold but call or raise. Yo udont 'know where your at pot is bloated and he could clean you out with a big hand.

its thin but i dont mind it against this villain.

as everyone is saying turn bet isnt great but given off-the-table dynamics you've mentioned it might be slightly better. river is an easy bet.