(25NL) AA facing all in on the river on a missed board
im a give his stats before everyone jumps down my throat this is a snap call.
56vp/39/
1/4 aggression 1.6 f 1.6 t and 1.0 river.
Now the problem is he definitely can do random bluffs on me and i will have to fold based on these stats. The conflict here is you see im up on. Hes down a few buy ins i won several hands in a row and now hes calling more loose to 3 b. I was looking at his shoes if i been losing and i misseed my straight or flush draw is this a spot i would spaz out. And it would be we all tilt =). I know its not a big factor but since i did have a club i thought i was a 5% chance less likely that he was on a flush draw maybe that shouldn't be a factor really if i didn't have the club i might of been more inclined to call but not that much more.
but against his aggression this was a really tough spot. He told me he had a flush draw. So i said i had one too. he said king high? I said uhhh ya. I had the ace so i guess that might of been him implying he had the nut flush draw. I dont know at the time i didn't know i had ace. Since i folded i was wondering if he would make a move there i was just to caught up in it. I thought a jack was definitely in his range and i fired 3 barrels. Do you guys think i should check call the river? It makes it easier for me and at the same time i leave a lot of bluffs in his range once i check the river. I think i played that hand terrible and put myself in a bad spot betting the river but i really thought he had a king and tried to go value town on him like im phil ivey to see a big raise...
Re: AA facing all in on the river on a missed board
betting river is totally standard here, the spot is a tough one, but saying stuff like "i put myself in a tough spot by betting the river, so i should check" is completely the wrong thought process. you want a 3 barrel range that contains some thin value aswell, and AA is no-where near that thin when villain can have all the combo's of KX.
As far as calling or folding goes, it is tough, a lot of it depends on whether he chkcalls flush draws or CR's them, whether he is capable if using board pairing cards to his advantage (or disadvantage vs good players) to bluff, does he float light oop ~
stuff like that.
Re: AA facing all in on the river on a missed board
he was really nitty post flop he just called with draws that is why it was so tough. I put him on a draw after he just smooth call the turn. There so many draws out there if he had king i could see him raising the turn worried that i might have a draw. but maybe a scared king is possible or a jack. But i really wanted to call here i thought he missed for sure and he was tilted i was up a few buy ins. But hes not the type of player to bluff but if he ever does bluff i think this would be the moment he would to try get some momentum back.
And we played more after this and he never real showed any propensity to bluff in any spot. But this hand still bugging me. I almost called just to see but its cost me a lot of money just to see if my read is right or not.
Re: (25NL) AA facing all in on the river on a missed board
every king except KJ, K5 will be chkcalling so value betting turn + river is a must... those 2 hands often CR flop so they can be somewhat discounted + if he's nitty K5 may not be in his range. when you say he CCs draws and is tilted that makes me think river's a call, you only need him to be bluffing 33% or something like that to be +ev and with the way you have described him.
btw, next time you post a hand like this, when you get to the part where you can either call or fold, don't include what you did, just end the HH there and add a question mark or something like that
Re: (25NL) AA facing all in on the river on a missed board
Oh i see so don't give the results. Ya I think if your going to hero call an all in with one pair this is probably the best spot to do it. All draws missed and he could value shoving worse hands like kq. But this type of player I didn't see that he more pot control then anything.
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